Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 07:48:25 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 11 Message-ID: <20250904074825.0000202b@gmail.com> References: <105fgk4$2ka5f$1@dont-email.me> <20250721093237.0000674f@gmail.com> <108k7rn$e12$4@news.misty.com> <20250826083118.00001403@gmail.com> <108nvm1$nphm$1@paganini.bofh.team> <108o2mn$vok4$3@dont-email.me> <3kp5olxb8d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <108pdt7$19vio$2@dont-email.me> <109ahrs$1emq7$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4acc66d9085846fd9b124a451c221d5f"; logging-data="1879469"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1//GCTR2+qnGveBE5mSLWzp2+YN2zSKCNA=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:GSo49+6N/8IqjWs+JPIZkHyvYkQ= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:73373 alt.folklore.computers:231755 On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 23:09:49 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D=E2=80=99Oliveiro wrote: > Apple managed it without DMA. And remember their floppies had higher=20 > capacity than IBM=E2=80=99s. True, but it's much harder to do precise timing on an 8088 than a 6502; the combination of prefetch queue obscurity (which *is* calculable, in a sufficiently tight loop) and DRAM refresh (which isn't) yields a lot of uncertainty wrt. real-world execution times.