Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 15:49:16 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <20250811154916.000065db@gmail.com> References: <1063lgp$jmj$2@reader1.panix.com> <1063ruo$2kgsj$3@dont-email.me> <10640fb$1gqnn$2@dont-email.me> <106411i$2l2gd$3@dont-email.me> <10646dg$1gqnn$3@dont-email.me> <1064ag9$1kvkq$1@dont-email.me> <1064m75$1lvr1$1@dont-email.me> <10667je$35rkf$2@dont-email.me> <106bdkb$2s14s$1@dont-email.me> <106bjgj$2t9mq$5@dont-email.me> <106cld0$33q3n$2@dont-email.me> <106l5kp$133ed$3@dont-email.me> <106ohbv$1q0ne$1@dont-email.me> <106olee$1r0v9$1@dont-email.me> <106v28o$3889m$1@dont-email.me> <20250806092812.00002de9@gmail.com> <6897438e$0$16825$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <20250811112646.00004f89@gmail.com> <107dq7i$2sqrk$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 22:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="20ddcf5c134940fbb46751ed8a0f4557"; logging-data="3030990"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19IMw/d5TGvId0NB8IbMGH/jyyOAldQdd4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:TaUHD92gh4WT4QmDTeo600Jmtro= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:70818 On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 22:18:26 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > > But there are people out there who *do* want that, and who are you > > (or the Wayland devs) to say they're wrong? =20 >=20 > The primary control should be with the user, not the developer. I wholeheartedly agree! And if the user prefers a workflow based around saved window configurations, as f'rexample the KiCad community does, I don't think it's the place of display-server developers to decide for them that You Don't Need That. Of course the Wayland devs are free to *make* that choice, as it's their software, but they shouldn't be surprised when their behavior tends to alienate people. > They could have ended up the BSDs of the display server world, a > little niche largely overlooked by the mainstream, and I=E2=80=99m sure t= hat > would not have bothered them one bit. The fact that they knuckled under is a strong argument that it would've.