Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 08:32:02 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <20250606083202.0000328e@gmail.com> References: <10131ao$28rgm$1@dont-email.me> <1016dr6$1e7od$1@news1.tnib.de> <1016gih$355q7$6@dont-email.me> <1019l0j$3s6rv$1@dont-email.me> <683a690e@news.ausics.net> <101dqb6$tefk$1@dont-email.me> <683a7a0e@news.ausics.net> <101e1p5$ucpf$3@dont-email.me> <683ab63f@news.ausics.net> <101ek3m$126kd$5@dont-email.me> <20250602091348.00007738@gmail.com> <101lfch$3j9qp$4@dont-email.me> <101mfnp$3tnqt$3@dont-email.me> <20250603084203.00007f94@gmail.com> <101o377$br8d$4@dont-email.me> <20250604084826.00004cfd@gmail.com> <101qk0o$13glj$8@dont-email.me> <20250605084547.00003f3a@gmail.com> <101ta0c$1qu8n$6@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2025 17:32:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="36ca70710d51f63ead6f923441a2f298"; logging-data="2448092"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19HD7y6q+H1xk3JltB5kFVBwa5u1OyzRy8=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:QCIwkanouv2hwgijcWzzu9C63IU= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:68434 On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 23:42:04 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > When you=E2=80=99re saying =E2=80=9Cget things right=E2=80=9D you just me= an =E2=80=9Cget things the > way I=E2=80=99m used to with Adobe products=E2=80=9D. Or maybe it=E2=80= =99s =E2=80=9CMicrosoft=E2=80=9D or > =E2=80=9CApple=E2=80=9D products in some other case. Again, they could certainly pick a *different* set of accelerators than Photoshop (and, while I didn't bother to compare, I imagine they did.) But until this revamp (which, I will reiterate, took them *almost three decades* to figure out,) they exhibited a fundamentally bone-headed mis- understanding of how keyboard accelerators are supposed to work in the first place. That's *not* a mistake Adobe made (or if they did, it'd been fixed by v.7, which was - *checks watch* - twenty-five years ago.) > Not sure what you=E2=80=99re complaining about there. GIMP still offers t= he > choice of multi-window mode, if that=E2=80=99s what you prefer. I don't prefer, actually! My beef with single-window mode is not that multi-window mode is better (maybe you like it better, maybe you don't, that's fine and it's good that they provide the option to switch) - it's that single-window mode is a *less useful* response to Photoshop's MDI interface. There is, AFAICT, still no way to view documents side-by- side in SWM, despite GIMP's own internal dev wiki admitting that this is a real need: "But then in every discussion the concrete need for working side-by-side comes up. [...] Let=E2=80=99s not kid ourselves: the fact that users can work on several files inside a single application window, means that this application must offer a substitute for window management..." - https://gui.gimp.org/index.php?title=3DSingle-window_mode_specification