Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 08:45:47 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <20250605084547.00003f3a@gmail.com> References: <10102st$1j2ov$1@dont-email.me> <10131ao$28rgm$1@dont-email.me> <1016dr6$1e7od$1@news1.tnib.de> <1016gih$355q7$6@dont-email.me> <1019l0j$3s6rv$1@dont-email.me> <683a690e@news.ausics.net> <101dqb6$tefk$1@dont-email.me> <683a7a0e@news.ausics.net> <101e1p5$ucpf$3@dont-email.me> <683ab63f@news.ausics.net> <101ek3m$126kd$5@dont-email.me> <20250602091348.00007738@gmail.com> <101lfch$3j9qp$4@dont-email.me> <101mfnp$3tnqt$3@dont-email.me> <20250603084203.00007f94@gmail.com> <101o377$br8d$4@dont-email.me> <20250604084826.00004cfd@gmail.com> <101qk0o$13glj$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 17:45:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dbd06667664530ff086ec2eab88736be"; logging-data="1682005"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bmGWMaARCdqn1ukMPrcU5BNuFmchtVTk=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:cVjgQWv9mb390rOiMpxz7f2NTFc= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:68390 On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 23:14:33 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > *Yawn* Or more likely, you took one look at an early version of GIMP > 27 years ago, dismissed it, and have been complaining about it > without actually trying it again ever since. That would be a convenient narrative for you, but no - I first picked it up with v.2 when I was looking for a *nix-native Photoshop alternative, and it was certainly the case then. I've been using it ever since (as the version of Photoshop I had was clunky under WINE,) but I gave up on getting any kind of comparable workflow going for digital art. That became irrelevant as I moved to more traditional media, which worked out for me, but it's illustrative of the GIMP team's overall approach to UI matters: blindly copy what better designers do in a surface approximation, without bothering to understand *why* or study the details to get things really *right.* Same can be seen with single- window mode, which came about as a response to Photoshop for Windows offering a multiple-document interface, but took a less-useful-but- easier-to-implement approach. "Minimum viable product to approximate feature parity" is just how they *do* things...which is why working professionals just trying to Get Shit Done are still willing to put up with Adobe's draconian bullshit.