Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:55:00 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: <20250210155500.00002b0b@gmail.com> References: <8b262a1f-507f-ef10-e4d3-a981dca5b7d1@example.net> <655acbf6-05e5-69ff-8a44-9f7075aafa2e@example.net> <9RycneStTKjZETf6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 00:55:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="454ae328dc3c07a3ddd01a46ee2da0b0"; logging-data="1491994"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/zoMv9tN9/BJ66S3PwgfKKlvx3jgSjsW0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:drLliH/3mD2ekCxhkChbNLdwJ2w= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:65378 comp.os.linux.advocacy:685618 On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:31:13 -0500 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" wrote: > Actually none of the graphics toolkits are particularly 'elegant' or > great joys to use so go with what seems easiest for the job. > > Mostly if I need something with a quickie GUI then I use Lazarus/FPC > when possible. The WYSIWYG form builder with a zillion possible > options is WAY nicer than the line-at-a-time TK approach plus Pascal > looks much nicer than Python or 'C'. It boggles my mind that all these years later, Visual Basic is *still* (putting aside design issues with the language itself and bugs/oddities in the runtime) one of the very few examples of a "GUI-builder" IDE/ language that really does it *right.* FPC/Lazarus looks like another, but it's truly baffling to me just how clumsy and awkward the majority of the rest are. (Like, apparently people pay *actual money* for B4J, despite the fact that it appears to have been designed as an experiment in psychological warfare.)