Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

From	John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
Date	2024-12-26 11:59 -0800
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 19:27:45 +0000
Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> wrote:

> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  You were a farce since the day you
> were born.

Never claimed otherwise!

> All image editors, like all word processors, spreadsheets,
> and accounting software, etc., are EXACTLY the same.  They all
> do the same fucking thing and none of them can stake a claim
> on having the definitive GUI.
> 
> But idiots like you, will always be duped.

I'm not even stating that as a criticism; there's nothing wrong with
copying what works, and in fairness even Photoshop has a clear lineage
back to MacPaint. But pretending that there's no imitation going on,
when GIMP started out looking like one version of Photoshop, and its
big "facelift" revision served to make it look like the newer versions
of Photoshop, is just silly.

> > The biggest difference is that Photoshop's workflow
> > and UX choices are generally well thought-out and helpful, while
> > GIMP's are clunky and awkward.
> 
> Only to a mental asshole like you.

Clearly, I am dealing with a master of rhetoric.

(I could write an essay on how slackass GIMP's UI design is - I have,
elsewhere, and if you'd like I can go and dig it up - but I think a
single example will suffice to illustrate the general point: the GIMP
team have *no* idea what the point of keyboard accelerators is. They
*have* accelerators, but they frequently assign the same letter to
multiple elements in a single menu/window, so that instead of being
able to quickly navigate through the most commonly-used paths by muscle
memory - as you can in Photoshop and other well-designed professional
software suites - you have to sit there hitting the same key multiple
times until you can visually confirm that the focus has cycled to the
option you want, at which point you might as well have just used the
mouse.)

> True artists, and their cerebral programming side, envision
> in their minds the concepts first and the GUIs much, much later,
> if at all.

I mean, it's certainly true that form ought to follow function, and
that *working well* is more important than being slick. But good
functionality and good UI design are *not* mutually exclusive, and
treating UI design as if it's a "later, if at all" consideration is a
good way to produce software that is intuitive only to its developer(s).

> My advice to you is simple:
> 
> Keep out of professional territory.  You will remain a cheap
> dilettante until your dying day.

I shall treat this golden wisdom with the reverence it deserves. Thank
you, O great sage, for blessing me with the insights of your mighty
brain.

> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

*Master* of rhetoric.

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GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-26 08:41 -0500
  Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 17:13 +0000
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 10:57 -0800
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-26 19:27 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 11:59 -0800
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-26 20:22 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:37 -0800
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 14:26 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 14:41 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-27 10:42 -0500
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 16:23 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-28 07:25 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 15:12 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 14:51 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 11:14 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 17:57 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 14:36 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-29 16:00 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:06 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:28 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 09:22 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 08:40 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:01 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 18:18 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:04 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:01 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:08 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 20:29 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:32 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:55 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:53 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:54 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-31 06:04 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 09:39 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 17:24 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 18:56 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:21 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:16 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:39 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-28 13:50 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-27 12:22 +0100
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-27 07:56 -0500
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 08:00 -0800
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:52 -0500
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-27 09:25 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-27 10:08 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-27 06:34 -0600
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 00:10 -0500
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:22 -0500
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-28 11:04 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-28 17:21 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 12:31 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 12:47 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-28 19:07 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> - 2024-12-28 19:13 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-28 23:50 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-28 23:47 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-29 09:37 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:44 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:34 -0500
                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 22:02 +0000
                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 18:56 -0500
                Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:00 +0000
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                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:16 -0500
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                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:47 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:41 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 11:47 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 21:22 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lem Novantotto <Lem@none.invalid> - 2024-12-28 20:49 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-29 00:30 +0000
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                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 01:54 +0000
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                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:30 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 03:42 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-02 07:22 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-02 12:20 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:46 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:05 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-31 05:53 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:59 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 13:25 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:54 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-31 05:58 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:45 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 18:43 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:34 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:49 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 02:01 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-31 03:33 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:09 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 13:27 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 20:24 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 20:00 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-31 07:13 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:43 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 01:57 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 10:42 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:09 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:40 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 12:49 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 20:35 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 12:44 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 21:21 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 23:20 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 01:55 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-02 12:28 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-02 10:41 -0500
                [OT] Cyber Truck == Asshole Driver Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-31 06:52 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-31 08:06 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:52 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-30 07:08 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:24 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-30 12:53 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:18 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 18:22 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-31 11:20 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 09:26 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:51 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 09:57 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-01 11:16 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 10:30 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:52 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:50 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 11:21 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 23:09 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 17:41 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-02 12:22 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-02 10:41 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-02 16:37 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-03 02:21 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 18:08 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 23:01 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-02 10:22 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-02 12:33 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-31 11:11 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 09:25 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-01 11:44 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 11:28 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-01 17:52 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 12:23 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-01 18:13 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 13:20 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-02 16:11 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-02 21:29 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-02 16:50 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-02 22:20 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-01-03 04:03 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 18:07 -0500
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-27 14:57 +0100
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-27 10:20 -0500
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-27 23:04 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 18:47 -0500
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-28 12:12 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:33 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-28 19:48 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 15:10 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 00:07 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-29 09:05 +1000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-29 02:03 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2024-12-29 16:45 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-30 03:03 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-29 09:07 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:30 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:52 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-30 08:15 +1000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-29 12:32 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2024-12-29 16:42 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 12:56 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2025-01-01 05:06 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 12:55 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2024-12-29 16:54 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 18:53 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 04:18 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 08:35 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 19:13 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 20:25 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-31 03:37 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-01 15:25 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:58 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 03:33 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-01 15:16 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-01 14:46 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 20:51 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 18:17 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 18:40 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:30 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 20:17 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:36 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:42 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 15:06 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-02 20:13 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 16:17 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 20:21 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 03:59 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 23:09 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-02 10:07 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 10:47 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-03 01:59 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:18 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-01-01 14:43 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-01 23:12 +0100
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-28 01:39 +0100
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-27 07:53 -0500

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