Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.politics,alt.economy,alt.business,talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: Nvidia Replaces Intel on DOW Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 10:20:13 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <20241104102013.0000358c@gmail.com> References: <-zmdnTyXmLloRrr6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 19:20:17 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="66d526abfeb7204318502339f256943c"; logging-data="1121999"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/3FeQUgycsB0geD6CIWyH/LVYQse/hhII=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:Waj/kBh82cTGEam4WvPwWTsa9rk= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:60528 alt.business:10441 talk.politics.misc:1165366 On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 13:01:01 +0000 The Natural Philosopher wrote: > However fabrication limits are getting stuck at 10nm and below, and > clock speeds are stuck at a few GHz which means that the > power-performance ratio is pretty much the same for Intel and ARM > architectures. Only by having fewer transistors and implicitly doing > less, can the power be reduced. > > I.e. Moore's law has basically stopped representing reality. And ARM > is no longer fantastic power performance compared with Intel. Its one > advantage is it doesn't have to support a legacy architecture. And so > its probably cheaper and less buggy. I've long held that necessity will ultimately force a serious rethink of programming practices w.r.t. resource-efficiency once Moore's Law runs afoul of pesky real-world physics principles, i.e. "eighteen inches is a nanosecond" vs. "you can't cram an arbitrary amount of stuff into a finite space without creating a black hole." Gonna be real interesting when we finally hit the wall.