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Re: Does journaling wear USBstik ?

From Tim Watts <tw@dionic.net>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.slackware, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Does journaling wear USBstik ?
Followup-To alt.os.linux.slackware
Date 2011-04-03 18:53 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <1pom68-hf6.ln1@squidward.dionic.net> (permalink)
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no.top.post@gmail.com wrote:

> I like this slak-based CD-runner, since it automounts everything.
> 
> And for `mount` it shows:-
> ...
> /dev/hda12 on /mnt/hda12 type ext2 (rw,noatime)
> /dev/hda14 on /mnt/hda14 type ext3 (rw,noatime)
> /dev/hda16 on /mnt/hda16 type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
> ...
> /dev/sda on /mnt/sda type vfat
> (rw,noatime,quiet,umask=0,check=s,shortname=mixed)
> 
> 
> Is it true that reiserfs and/or ext3 writes to the disk,
> on a regular basis, even if the PC is not 'used' for days?

I don't believe so.

what happens is every time you update something on the filesystem, is the 
journal will get hit (usually for meta-data updates, but ext3 can be mounted 
so all data updates are journalled too).

The journal is in one place on th device to it gets hit repeatedly whereas 
the data tends to be spread around (depending on what you are doing).

I'm surprised anyone is still using resierfs - SuSE by any chance?

> And that this would cause significant 'wear' to limited-life
> flash-memories?

Can do - some hav auto wear levelling in hardware so mitigate this. If you 
don't do a lot of writes to the device then it doesn't matter much anyway.

You have noatime which will help too.

> But this doesn't apply to vfat?

Correct.

> And if I eventually get to partition a USBstik to reiserfs
> and ext3 , there's a switch to disable the repeated writing?

You can mount ext3 without journally - it effectively behaves like ext2.

HTH

Tim

> This CD doesnt have any <man>s.
> 
> == TIA.

-- 
Tim Watts

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Does journaling wear USBstik ? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2011-04-03 13:47 +0000
  Re: Does journaling wear USBstik ? Douglas Mayne <none@invalid.com> - 2011-04-03 15:13 +0000
  Re: Does journaling wear USBstik ? Tim Watts <tw@dionic.net> - 2011-04-03 18:53 +0100
  Re: Does journaling wear USBstik ? Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@tudelft.nl> - 2011-04-04 10:28 +0200
  Re: Does journaling wear USBstik ? General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-04 15:36 +0000
    Re: Does journaling wear USBstik ? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201104.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-04-06 05:47 +0200
      Re: Does journaling wear USBstik ? Tim Watts <tw@dionic.net> - 2011-04-06 08:01 +0100

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