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Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie,

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie,
Date 2026-02-26 11:40 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 26/02/2026 06:48, Marc Haber wrote:
> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>> I did some research. There are known issues that prevent this working
>>> out of the box..
>>>
>>> They seem to be due to Trixie having dropped some libraries that the
>>> current vbox needs
> 
> did we _drop_ those libraries or are we just not installing them any
> more in the default system?
> 
Marc. I simply do not know. What I *think* happened is that the version 
numbers moved on and VirtualBox hasn't kept up.

And that is the problem with Debian and non-free software. Debian does 
not include a 'certified working' copy in its distro.

But Mint has no such scruples.


>>> and a need to remove the kvm nodule,
> 
> Is known why the kvm module gets loaded? Sadly, I don't have a
> reference system handy and am not willing to spend my private time to
> solve "c18"'s problems.
> 

Again, I do not know. Richard is more on top of this than I am.


>> * There were no dependency issues at least for VirtualBox 7.1, using the
>>   virtualbox.org archive. If you installed the .deb manually you might
>>   have to install some dependencies manually too, but that’s just
>>   question of whether you want to make your life easy or hard.
> 
> If the Virtualbox 7.1 deb needs libraries, they should declare those
> dependencies and apt would take care of that automatically. Things are
> different if Virtualbox needs libs that we are not shipping, then I'd
> like to know which libraries those are to be able to say why we are
> not shipping them.
As i said it is because you ship versions "x.3" and current vbox wants 
"version "x.25" AIUI.

I think one poster referred to linking the two names together.

There is info on the virtualbox forum somewhere.

> 
>> * Because I’m using Secure Boot, I had to create and install a driver
>>   signing key before it could install the VirtualBox kernel modules. The
>>   diagnostic from the package install included full instructions and it
>>   worked first time. An end user who is not using Secure Boot would
>>   presumably not need this step.
> 
> Out-of-tree Kernel Modules do not play well with secure boot for very
> obvious reasons. That's one of the reasons why I am happy to having
> switched away from Virtualbox a decade ago.
> 
> Greetings
> Marc

-- 
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a 
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, 
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer 
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to 
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

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Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-25 12:13 +0000
  Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-25 18:12 +0000
    Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-26 07:48 +0100
      Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-26 02:25 -0500
      Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-26 08:38 +0000
        Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-26 21:32 +0100
      Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-26 11:40 +0000
        Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-02-26 14:32 +0200
          Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-26 13:03 +0000
            Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-26 20:34 -0500
              Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-27 08:22 +0000
        Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-26 21:55 +0000
      Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-26 21:44 +0000
        Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-27 11:01 +0100
          Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-02-27 18:02 +0200
            Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-27 22:18 +0100
          Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-27 19:39 +0000
            Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-27 22:19 +0100
              Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-27 21:44 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-28 08:51 +0100
              Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-28 01:54 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-28 08:52 +0100
  Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-25 19:59 +0000
    Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-26 02:20 -0500
      Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-26 21:41 +0000
        Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-26 23:16 +0000
          Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-27 11:05 +0100
        Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-27 11:03 +0100
          Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-27 19:22 +0000
            Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-27 22:21 +0100
              Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-28 01:30 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-28 08:58 +0100
  Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-25 20:03 -0500
    Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-26 06:04 +0000
    Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-03-03 03:41 +0000
      Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-02 23:29 -0500
        Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 08:42 +0000
          Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-03 04:00 -0500
            Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-03 19:33 +0000
              Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-03 19:34 -0500
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 03:38 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-03 23:18 -0500
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 08:44 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-03-04 09:51 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-03-04 15:32 -0500
            Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 20:57 +0000
      Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-03-03 10:52 +0100
        Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 11:04 +0000
          Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-03-03 16:29 +0100
            Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 16:37 +0000
              Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-03 20:00 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 20:11 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 03:42 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-03 23:20 -0500
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 02:14 -0500
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 19:47 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-05 03:10 +0000
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 23:08 -0500
                Re: Virtualbox on Debian Trixie, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-05 03:00 -0500
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