Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Date	2025-09-03 11:45 +0100
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On 03/09/2025 11:08, c186282 wrote:
> On 9/3/25 5:34 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 03/09/2025 10:02, c186282 wrote:
>>> There is NO easy fix for a nukewar. 99+ percent
>>>    will DIE, probably in a horrible manner.
>>
>> Experiences at Hiroshima and elsewhere produce the following
>>
>> - you really want to be blocked from the direct radiation by large 
>> amounts of earth or concrete. A desk wont be much good but a cellar 
>> would,
>>
>> - your next problem is blast. Again you need large quantities of earth 
>> or concrete to hide behind, or distance.
>>
>> - for a rather smaller number of people, radiation sickness will get 
>> them in a few days. Again large quantities of earth or concrete are 
>> helpful.
>>
>> If the above don't get you, you will very likely survive. The myth of 
>> fallout is - unless its deliberately induced in e,g. a cobalt bomb - 
>> simply a non problem. Likewise nuclear winter etc etc.
>>
>> The actual data shows that the bast majority of deaths are from being 
>> vaporised or blown to bits . In either case you might as well not 
>> worry. You wont feel a thing.
>> For a small minority, a nasty death from radiation exposure calls.
>>
>> For most of the rest of the population, the danger is total disruption 
>> of a modern infrastructure. Food water power sanitation etc.
>>
>> They wont normally all die. You are using nukes to mainly threaten., 
>> They are not a great deal of use beyond that unless you are going for 
>> e.g. complete sterilisation and using a neutron bomb.
>>
>> Modern precison weapons can damage what you want to damage and leave 
>> people  more or less intact. Ukraine is showing that in a masterful 
>> fashion. Ordinary Russians look on as their oil electrical and 
>> transport infrastructure is dismantled before their eyes.  The war is 
>> not with ordinary Russians, it is with a politically dominant  
>> oligarchy and a war machine they control.
>>
>> So take out the oligarchs and the war machine.
>>
>> Only the 3rd world islamists would like to commit genocide on an 
>> entire population.
> 
> 
>    Hiroshima/Nagasaki - SUB 20kt.
> 
>    Modern nukes - ten to a hundred times stronger.
> 
Irrelevant. The area affected just gets bigger BUT...the question is, 
what are you trying to achieve?


>    Russia stocks a few 1000 times stronger.

Left over from the days when dropping a bomb within 10 miles of a target 
was good going.


> 
>    Maybe a very few 10,000 times stronger.
> 
Biggest ever was castle Bravo and Tsar Bomba at tens of megatons. Blast 
radius about 60 miles. as against 6 with Nagasaki etc.

Pointless as weapons.

>    So, WAKE UP, we CAN'T do this thing.

Russia can and may well. Iran certainly would since genocide is their 
avowed intention.
Pakistan might. Its a good way of getting rid of a lot of people you 
cant feed.

But none of them have big hitters.

And in the case of Russia its a moot point as to how many left would 
actually work.

Most nukes are in the 500k →5 Mt range. So a blastr radius around maybe 
10-20 miles.

That really isn't a very useful weapon.

Anyway the point is te world would survicve it.

The biggest detonation on record was Krakatoa. Equivalent to 200 
megatons. Probably as much as all the worlds nukes pit together.

A couple of years of pretty sunsets and cold weather and that was it. 
Plus a big tsunami and around 20,000 dead.





-- 
  “A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, 
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say, 
“We did this ourselves.”

― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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