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Re: Anyone heard of Framework Laptops?

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Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> A user on a Forum asked a question about this company
> described below:
>> I have become aware of Framework laptops over the past year or so and 
>> found their approach and philosophy interesting and intriguing - 
>> especially the modular design and up-grad-ability. From their About page:
>>
>> Consumer electronics is broken. We’ve all had the experience of a 
>> busted screen, button, or connector that can’t be fixed, battery life 
>> degrading without a path for replacement, or being unable to add more 
>> storage when full. Individually, this is irritating and requires us to 
>> make unnecessary and expensive purchases of new products to get around 
>> what should be easy problems to solve. Globally though, it’s much 
>> worse. We create over fifty million tons of e-waste each year. That’s 
>> 6 kg or 13 lb per person on earth per year, made up of our former 
>> devices. We need to improve recyclability, but the biggest impact we 
>> can make is generating less waste to begin with by making our products 
>> last longer.
>>
>> The conventional wisdom in the industry is that making products 
>> repairable makes them thicker, heavier, uglier, less robust, and more 
>> expensive. We’re here to prove that wrong and fix consumer 
>> electronics, one category at a time. Our philosophy is that by making 
>> well-considered design tradeoffs and trusting customers and repair 
>> shops with the access and information they need, we can make fantastic 
>> devices that are still easy to repair. Even better, what we’ve done to 
>> enable repair also opens up upgradeability and customization. This 
>> lets you get exactly the product you need and extends usable lifetime 
>> too.
>>
>> We know these are big claims and consumer electronics is littered with 
>> the graves of companies with grand ideas and failed executions. The 
>> proof is going to be in the products. We’re excited about the team of 
>> fantastic engineers and designers we’ve pulled together who are 
>> carrying hard learned lessons from what we’ve built before, and we’re 
>> grateful for the capable and competent partners we’re working with who 
>> believe in our mission. We are looking forward to showing you the 
>> Framework Laptop and showing the industry and the world a framework 
>> for a better way.
>>
>> They've just opened pre-orders for their new Framework 16 laptop 
>> (https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-16-pre-orders-are-now-open) 
>> and I'd love to know everyone's thoughts. Over the past few months 
>> they have been releasing a series of Deep Dives on aspects of the 
>> hardware:
>>
>> Display: https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---display
>>
>> Memory and Storage: 
>> https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---memory-and-storage 
>>
>>
>> Power Adapter: 
>> https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---180w-power-adapter 
>>
>>
>> Enclosure: 
>> https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---enclosure
>>
>> Battery and Speakers: 
>> https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---battery-and-speakers 
>>
>>
>> Supposedly they have made many improvements over the previous 
>> Framework 13 laptop that they still offer. Does anyone have any 
>> experience with this company or their laptops? 
> 
>      Well I know nothing about Framework except the above.
>      I told the user I would as on Usenet which is of course the primary 
> repository of the world's knowledge of things computer.
> 
> bliss - Dell E7450- PCLinuxOS 64- Linux 6.4.3- KDE Plasma 5.27.6
> 

I saw them mentioned in a (the best) German computer magazine last 
weekend, it was in a series of articles in upgrading computers and 
laptops to make them significantly faster and/or compatible with Windows 11.
They basically said there was very little you could upgrade on a laptop, 
and that the exception - Framework - had only been around since the 
start of 2022 and it was too early to assess them on that basis.
The magazine is called C't and is - as you would expect - in German.
https://www.heise.de/select/ct (in this case 17/2023)

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        Re: Anyone heard of Framework Laptops? scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us - 2023-07-25 14:47 +0000
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  Re: Anyone heard of Framework Laptops? John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2023-07-19 10:53 -0400
  Re: Anyone heard of Framework Laptops? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2023-07-20 14:16 -0700

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