Message-ID: <66a58afa@news.ausics.net> From: not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Subject: Re: What are the best live (not installing yet) Linux distro to boot from a bootable USB stick in a 13.3" 2020 Intel MBP to try out? Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable References: <66a44077@news.ausics.net> User-Agent: tin/2.0.1-20111224 ("Achenvoir") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.31 (i586)) NNTP-Posting-Host: news.ausics.net Date: 28 Jul 2024 10:04:11 +1000 Organization: Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net Lines: 31 X-Complaints: abuse@ausics.net Path: csiph.com!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!news.ausics.net!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com alt.os.linux:80215 comp.os.linux.hardware:3745 comp.os.linux.portable:86 In comp.os.linux.portable Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2024-07-27, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >> >> Based on this page that seems likely because it claims that Apple >> Macbooks have used Broadcom WiFi chipsets since 2008, and those >> drivers aren't included in Debian by defaut because they're classed >> as "non-free": >> https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook/Wireless > > What that page states seems to be that the Broadcom WLAN NICs used in > MacBooks "work"[*] with the in-kernel open driver, and that the > proprietary part missing is the firmware[**]. Ah right, I wasn't sure if it was like a Realtek Ethernet driver I use where Debian put it in "non-free" because it includes the firmware as binary data in the driver's source code. There's also an in-kernel driver for that which is "free" but it doesn't work at all (it just creates a network interface that doesn't do anything). > [*] As far as a Broadcom Wireless NIC can work, which isn't much, hence > the quotes. Well my home WiFi actually runs from a Broadcom chip in a wireless router running OpenWrt (and the b43 driver with firmware files in /lib/firmware/b43, I see, not sure which package they came from). It is rather crippled for performance with the Linux driver, but hasn't been unreliable. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#