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Re: Can linux replace facebook?

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On 2018-04-24, Mustafa Cihan <musdogru@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Jacob,
>
> Interesting idea to build a social network with credit card sized machines.
> Would be really nice and people will have really better privacy for sure. 
> Since you asked why we don't have it I will give you some problem points
> that this idea should solve.
>
> First, free lures. Even if we all know nothing is free in this life. If you
> do not pay with money then you pay with something else (in Facebook case with
> your private information.) People will choose the free option. The cost can
> be solved with integrated servers to the routers that are free (this time
> because you subscribed to the internet service provider). We can have this
> piece of server integrated on routers that are anyways 24/7 on and connected.
>
> Second, any good social network server we will have in our house is good for
> today and not for tomorrow so it needs to be updated. Who will update it and
> how to deploy it. We need central management of all apps (ios, android) and
> websites (desktop, tablet, etc.) synchronized and updated regularly. 

Since this takes us back to a monopoly, just like Facebook, it isn't really
a solution.  The original intent of the Internet - peers passing data to
each other without a centralized point of control - should be revived.
Groups like this one (i.e. Usenet) keep the dream alive.  In theory, so
does e-mail - although consolidation into a few huge providers (e.g. gmail,
Yahoo, etc.) again shows a disturbing trend toward monopolization.

> No free solution can win the battle to facebook. (If you are not planning
> to ban it)
>
> What is more, people are lazy. Probably even you and me just emailed the
> document (meaning giving a copy to google) to next room instead of sending
> the file by usb (more secure). So the solution should be even easier than
> facebook to share or no sharing will happen at all.

Convenience (or, more accurately, the perception of convenience) is one of
the most powerful tools for manipulating people.  As long as users are willing
to drink the Kool-Aid, there isn't a lot we can do.  Those of us who care must
be willing to make the slight effort required to maintain independence.  (And
no, I don't have a Facebook account, and I wouldn't even know how to tweet.
I find enough social interactions elsewhere.)

> Finding friends will get harder. You need a centralized database (or kind
> of a blockchain) to search for friends. Don't forget how facebook sent you
> thousands of email to take you from emails to facebook. In time you forget
> your inbox and start your day with facebook. (you means not you especially)

Again, it's seen as an excuse for the rise of monopolies.  Finding friends in
the real world has never been easy either.  And in both places, if you depend
on being handed a prepackaged group of "friends", you're going to get burned.

Much of the malaise of the 21st century is due to the fact that people are
unwilling to do anything for themselves.  This has been true through history,
but modern technology has eliminated the reality checks that usually kept it
from becoming a problem.  On the other hand, history tells us many stories
where denial of reality has spread throughout a society.  This is usually
quickly followed by the collapse of that society.

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