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List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-01-24 16:58 +0000
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-01-24 18:10 +0000
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-01-24 13:30 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 03:44 +0000
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-01-25 06:42 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-25 09:24 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 16:42 +0000
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-01-25 14:14 -0600
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-01-25 16:36 -0600
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-01-25 14:30 -0800
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-01-25 12:41 +0000
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-01-25 11:28 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-01-25 11:37 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-01-25 11:45 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-01-25 12:09 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-25 12:11 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-01-25 14:05 -0800
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 16:54 +0000
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-26 07:12 -0600
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands BurfordTJustice <Burford@hub.dub> - 2015-01-26 08:19 -0500
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-01-26 09:22 -0600
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-01-24 22:20 +0000
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-01-24 18:17 +0000
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-01-25 04:56 -0800
Re: List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-01-25 10:46 -0500
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| From | 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 16:58 +0000 |
| Subject | List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands |
| Message-ID | <fbQww.290035$8Z7.225316@fx19.am4> |
List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands ------------------------------------------------ http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_all_alphabetic.html Whoa! Unbelievable. All documented including which header files to use when calling functions, and the data types of the functions. Developers can use this to make ANY new computing system or distro. May be a new banking device, or a TV device, or a gaming device, or a robot gadget, or a Internet of Things product, or a new tablet, or a new smart watch, or a new 3D printer, or a new digital camera, or a new digital telescope, or a new security camera, etc etc etc. Also documented are all the common commands that may be run from bash console such as ls, date, cp, etc. These functions are easy enough to call from C program to make exceptionally light work of very complex operatons without having to write all that in C. Many of these commands are immensely useful in fault finding roles.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 18:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bghvue0.vjod@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #277712 |
In comp.os.linux.advocacy 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> wrote: > List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands > ------------------------------------------------ > http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_all_alphabetic.html > Whoa! Unbelievable. All documented including which header files to use > when calling functions, and the data types of the functions. > Developers can use this to make ANY new computing system or distro. > May be a new banking device, or a TV device, or a gaming device, > or a robot gadget, or a Internet of Things product, or a > new tablet, or a new smart watch, or a new 3D printer, > or a new digital camera, or a new digital telescope, or > a new security camera, etc etc etc. > Also documented are all the common commands that may be run > from bash console such as ls, date, cp, etc. > These functions are easy enough to call from C program > to make exceptionally light work of very complex operatons > without having to write all that in C. > Many of these commands are immensely useful in fault finding > roles. Why don't you just read the man pages in an xterm like everybody else?
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-24 13:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ma0oba$bg4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #277728 |
"owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message news:bghvue0.vjod@rooftop.invalid... > In comp.os.linux.advocacy 7 > <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> wrote: >> List of 6000 Linux C function calls and commands >> ------------------------------------------------ > >> http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_all_alphabetic.html > >> Whoa! Unbelievable. All documented including which header files to use >> when calling functions, and the data types of the functions. > >> Developers can use this to make ANY new computing system or distro. "6000 Linux C function calls" And here I have a 2-ton pile of nuts, bolts and brackets that people can use to build ANY new space station or aircraft carrier. > >> Many of these commands are immensely useful in fault finding >> roles. > > Why don't you just read the man pages in an > xterm like everybody else? > I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy.
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| From | Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 03:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ma1oq5$hch$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #277737 |
On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually > I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. I'm sure you're joking, but I remember starting to do that once: print out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I don't remember if I got them all printed or not. That was back when I was using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no networking, no X11) There weren't nearly as many man pages back then, and opening a new xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, but I quickly learned how to live without hardcopy of man pages. -- Grant
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 06:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ma2kr0$f2i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #277800 |
Grant Edwards wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > >> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. > > I'm sure you're joking, but I remember starting to do that once: print > out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I don't > remember if I got them all printed or not. That was back when I was > using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no networking, no X11) > There weren't nearly as many man pages back then, and opening a new > xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, but I quickly learned how > to live without hardcopy of man pages. A friend who did a stint at AT&T many many years ago gave me a big thick comb-bound "book" of man pages, with a permuted index. Unfortunately, at that time I was mostly stuck on DOS. -- You will remember, Watson, how the dreadful business of the Abernetty family was first brought to my notice by the depth which the parsley had sunk into the butter upon a hot day. -- Sherlock Holmes
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| From | flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 09:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1lye29hzfb67b.17jkhzuhb71fi.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #277803 |
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 06:42:55 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >> >>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. >> >> I'm sure you're joking, but I remember starting to do that once: print >> out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I don't >> remember if I got them all printed or not. That was back when I was >> using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no networking, no X11) >> There weren't nearly as many man pages back then, and opening a new >> xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, but I quickly learned how >> to live without hardcopy of man pages. > > A friend who did a stint at AT&T many many years ago gave me a big thick > comb-bound "book" of man pages, with a permuted index. Unfortunately, at > that time I was mostly stuck on DOS. Always yearning to become a *nix programmer but never really making it. Right Chris? The story of your life only these days its working as a Windows QA person. -- flatfish+++ Linux: The Operating System That Put The City Of Munich Out Of Business. Before Switching To Linux Read This: http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
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| From | Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 16:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ma36dl$cg9$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #277803 |
On 2015-01-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >> >>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. >> >> I'm sure you're joking, but I remember starting to do that once: >> print out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I >> don't remember if I got them all printed or not. That was back >> when I was using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no >> networking, no X11) There weren't nearly as many man pages back >> then, and opening a new xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, >> but I quickly learned how to live without hardcopy of man pages. > > A friend who did a stint at AT&T many many years ago gave me a big > thick comb-bound "book" of man pages, with a permuted index. > Unfortunately, at that time I was mostly stuck on DOS. Those were pretty common back in the day. I had a complete set of those for BSD, a single-volume one for System-V, and another one for MKS tookit (a port of ksh and System V command line tools for Dos). -- Grant
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| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 14:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmcajlj.jo1.jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| In reply to | #277849 |
On 2015-01-25, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2015-01-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> Grant Edwards wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually
>>>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy.
>>>
>>> I'm sure you're joking, but I remember starting to do that once:
>>> print out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I
>>> don't remember if I got them all printed or not. That was back
>>> when I was using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no
>>> networking, no X11) There weren't nearly as many man pages back
>>> then, and opening a new xterm to read a man page wasn't an option,
>>> but I quickly learned how to live without hardcopy of man pages.
>>
>> A friend who did a stint at AT&T many many years ago gave me a big
>> thick comb-bound "book" of man pages, with a permuted index.
>> Unfortunately, at that time I was mostly stuck on DOS.
>
> Those were pretty common back in the day. I had a complete set of
> those for BSD, a single-volume one for System-V, and another one for
> MKS tookit (a port of ksh and System V command line tools for Dos).
Back in the 90s I had printed manuals for the software that I used.
These days it's considered a terribly quaint idea, especially among the
younger people. Either a softcopy version is available (PDF,HTML) or it's much
easier to just search Google.
I used to drag a big collection of paper around with my every where I
went but I discontinued that.
--
I should not be held hostage by your bad taste. |||
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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 16:36 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <cil2fkF8l46U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #277885 |
On 25 Jan 2015 14:14, JEDIDIAH wrote: > On 2015-01-25, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 2015-01-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >>> Grant Edwards wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>> >>>> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >>>>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. >>>> >>>> I'm sure you're joking, but I remember starting to do that once: >>>> print out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I >>>> don't remember if I got them all printed or not. That was back >>>> when I was using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no >>>> networking, no X11) There weren't nearly as many man pages back >>>> then, and opening a new xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, >>>> but I quickly learned how to live without hardcopy of man pages. >>> >>> A friend who did a stint at AT&T many many years ago gave me a big >>> thick comb-bound "book" of man pages, with a permuted index. >>> Unfortunately, at that time I was mostly stuck on DOS. >> >> Those were pretty common back in the day. I had a complete set of >> those for BSD, a single-volume one for System-V, and another one for >> MKS tookit (a port of ksh and System V command line tools for Dos). > > Back in the 90s I had printed manuals for the software that I used. > > These days it's considered a terribly quaint idea, especially among the > younger people. Either a softcopy version is available (PDF,HTML) or it's much > easier to just search Google. > > I used to drag a big collection of paper around with my every where I > went but I discontinued that. > That's the way of it back then. I liked printed manual because looking at a crt or trying to read in the comfort of my lounger with a laptop was hard on the eyes, and the laptops were so heavy and HOT!! Now I've got this very light 13" that is so nice that reading onscreen is great. -- Lloyd
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| From | John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 14:30 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <3e37a70e-cb94-4846-96a8-c10dd33a8927@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #277887 |
On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 3:37:11 PM UTC-5, Lloyd Parsons wrote: > On 25 Jan 2015 14:14, JEDIDIAH wrote: > > On 2015-01-25, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2015-01-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > >>> Grant Edwards wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >>> > >>>> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually > >>>>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. > >>>> > >>>> I'm sure you're joking, but I remember starting to do that once: > >>>> print out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I > >>>> don't remember if I got them all printed or not. That was back > >>>> when I was using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no > >>>> networking, no X11) There weren't nearly as many man pages back > >>>> then, and opening a new xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, > >>>> but I quickly learned how to live without hardcopy of man pages. > >>> > >>> A friend who did a stint at AT&T many many years ago gave me a big > >>> thick comb-bound "book" of man pages, with a permuted index. > >>> Unfortunately, at that time I was mostly stuck on DOS. > >> > >> Those were pretty common back in the day. I had a complete set of > >> those for BSD, a single-volume one for System-V, and another one for > >> MKS tookit (a port of ksh and System V command line tools for Dos). > > > > Back in the 90s I had printed manuals for the software that I used. > > > > These days it's considered a terribly quaint idea, especially among the > > younger people. Either a softcopy version is available (PDF,HTML) or it's much > > easier to just search Google. > > > > I used to drag a big collection of paper around with my every where I > > went but I discontinued that. > > > That's the way of it back then. I liked printed manual because looking > at a crt or trying to read in the comfort of my lounger with a laptop > was hard on the eyes, and the laptops were so heavy and HOT!! > > Now I've got this very light 13" that is so nice that reading onscreen > is great. Ooooh! Please spare us, from more of your bantering. Je suis Moi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liq__GnfNB0
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| From | Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 12:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ma2o9o$jm1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #277800 |
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 03:44:05 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > >> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually I'll >> print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. > > I'm sure you're joking, but I remember starting to do that once: print > out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I don't > remember if I got them all printed or not. That was back when I was > using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no networking, no X11) > There weren't nearly as many man pages back then, and opening a new > xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, but I quickly learned how to > live without hardcopy of man pages. I suppose the modern equivalent would be to use a bash script to periodically feed all the manpages through man2html and write a chunk of PHP to act as a search/selection tool, but I can't think why anybody would do that when man+apropos works so well. Unless, of course, they had some sort of command-line phobia. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 11:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ma35hr$j2q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #277800 |
"Grant Edwards" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:ma1oq5$hch$1@reader1.panix.com... > On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > >> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. > > I'm sure you're joking, Of course I'm joking. I actually print out three copies in case I lose both the original and the backup. > but I remember starting to do that once: print > out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I don't > remember if I got them all printed or not. I used to really like computer books back in the day. But now with all the reference material available via man pages and out on the web it's been ages since I've bought a computer book. The other problem for books is that things change so rapidly that a book is often out of date by the time it's released. > That was back when I was > using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no networking, no X11) > There weren't nearly as many man pages back then, and opening a new > xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, but I quickly learned how > to live without hardcopy of man pages. I never used a PDP-11. My first *nix experience was with Ultrix running on a MicroVAX. It ran DEC-windows so opening up multiple terminals was trivial. I don't remember what the actual resolution was on the Ultrix workstations but the monitors seemed amazing compared to the typical PC monitor. -- "The only version of SQL where I have heard of the (SQL) injection flaw is MSSQL. AFAIK, this only runs on Windows." Ian Hilliard Msg-ID: <4a8aeb49$1@news.x-privat.org>
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| From | Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 11:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <zZ8xw.3296$_73.314@fx01.iad> |
| In reply to | #277842 |
On Sunday January 25 2015 11:28, in comp.os.linux.embedded, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > > "Grant Edwards" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:ma1oq5$hch$1@reader1.panix.com... >> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >> >>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. >> >> I'm sure you're joking, > > Of course I'm joking. I actually print out three copies in case I lose > both the original and the backup. Don't laugh too hard, book-printed versions of the Unix manpages are still available from Prentice-Hall. -- Lew Pitcher "In Skills, We Trust" PGP public key available upon request
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 11:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ma36hq$nep$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #277846 |
"Lew Pitcher" <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote in message news:zZ8xw.3296$_73.314@fx01.iad... > On Sunday January 25 2015 11:28, in comp.os.linux.embedded, "Ezekiel" > <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > >> >> "Grant Edwards" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:ma1oq5$hch$1@reader1.panix.com... >>> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >>>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. >>> >>> I'm sure you're joking, >> >> Of course I'm joking. I actually print out three copies in case I lose >> both the original and the backup. > > Don't laugh too hard, book-printed versions of the Unix manpages are still > available from Prentice-Hall. > Yikes. Do they use a 9-pin dot matrix font to give it that true retro look and feel? It won't feel authentic unless it's printed on green-bar paper with tractor feed holes along the sides. -- Any country with laws is, by definition, not "free" Homer Idiocy Message-ID: <erk5t9-1mn.ln1@sky.matrix>
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 12:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ma37uf$ti0$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #277846 |
On 1/25/2015 11:37 AM, Lew Pitcher wrote: > On Sunday January 25 2015 11:28, in comp.os.linux.embedded, "Ezekiel" > <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > >> >> "Grant Edwards" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:ma1oq5$hch$1@reader1.panix.com... >>> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >>>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. >>> >>> I'm sure you're joking, >> >> Of course I'm joking. I actually print out three copies in case I lose >> both the original and the backup. > > Don't laugh too hard, book-printed versions of the Unix manpages are still > available from Prentice-Hall. For $1.44 + shipping you can buy a printed version of the Linux kernel code, along with commentary http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1576104699/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
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| From | flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 12:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <z6zztvd9a0al.1vdk16uokrurn$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #277867 |
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:09:02 -0500, DFS wrote: > On 1/25/2015 11:37 AM, Lew Pitcher wrote: >> On Sunday January 25 2015 11:28, in comp.os.linux.embedded, "Ezekiel" >> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> "Grant Edwards" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:ma1oq5$hch$1@reader1.panix.com... >>>> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >>>>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. >>>> >>>> I'm sure you're joking, >>> >>> Of course I'm joking. I actually print out three copies in case I lose >>> both the original and the backup. >> >> Don't laugh too hard, book-printed versions of the Unix manpages are still >> available from Prentice-Hall. > > > For $1.44 + shipping you can buy a printed version of the Linux kernel > code, along with commentary > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1576104699/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used It's overpriced. -- flatfish+++ Linux: The Operating System That Put The City Of Munich Out Of Business. Before Switching To Linux Read This: http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 14:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1045db05-62c6-4622-8dcf-feec40bd9eec@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #277868 |
On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 10:11:28 AM UTC-7, flatfish+++ wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:09:02 -0500, DFS wrote: > > > On 1/25/2015 11:37 AM, Lew Pitcher wrote: > >> On Sunday January 25 2015 11:28, in comp.os.linux.embedded, "Ezekiel" > >> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> "Grant Edwards" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message > >>> news:ma1oq5$hch$1@reader1.panix.com... > >>>> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually > >>>>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. > >>>> > >>>> I'm sure you're joking, > >>> > >>> Of course I'm joking. I actually print out three copies in case I lose > >>> both the original and the backup. > >> > >> Don't laugh too hard, book-printed versions of the Unix manpages are still > >> available from Prentice-Hall. > > > > > > For $1.44 + shipping you can buy a printed version of the Linux kernel > > code, along with commentary > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1576104699/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used > > It's overpriced. If you don't know what to do with it you'd think that. Google obviously got their money's worth.
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| From | Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-01-25 16:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ma374p$n8g$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #277842 |
On 2015-01-25, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > > "Grant Edwards" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:ma1oq5$hch$1@reader1.panix.com... >> On 2015-01-24, Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >> >>> I like to print all of this out as a hardcopy reference. Usually >>> I'll print all of this twice just in case I lose the first copy. >> >> I'm sure you're joking, > > Of course I'm joking. I actually print out three copies in case I lose both > the original and the backup. > > >> but I remember starting to do that once: print >> out all of the Unix man pages to put in 3-ring binders. I don't >> remember if I got them all printed or not. > > I used to really like computer books back in the day. But now with all the > reference material available via man pages and out on the web it's been ages > since I've bought a computer book. The other problem for books is that > things change so rapidly that a book is often out of date by the time it's > released. > > >> That was back when I was >> using a serial terminal on with V7 on a PDP-11 (no networking, no X11) >> There weren't nearly as many man pages back then, and opening a new >> xterm to read a man page wasn't an option, but I quickly learned how >> to live without hardcopy of man pages. > > I never used a PDP-11. My first *nix experience was with Ultrix running on a > MicroVAX. It ran DEC-windows so opening up multiple terminals was trivial. I > don't remember what the actual resolution was on the Ultrix workstations but > the monitors seemed amazing compared to the typical PC monitor. I remember switching from a VT-240 to a MicroVAX workstation. I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Back then, there was a _huge_ difference between PC monitors (15" 1024x768 if you were _lucky_) and Sun/Apollo/uVax workstations (usually 19-21" and _much_ higher resolution). If you did mainly coding and documentation, the grayscale monitors for those workstations were _gorgeous_: larger and higher resolution than the color options. I stuck with grayscale on Sun workstations until about 2000 when I switched to Linux. That was definitly a big downgrade in display quality. I don't think I had anything equal to those old Sun grayscale monitors until many years later when I bought a 20" Samsung 206BW 1680x1050 LCD. -- Grant
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-01-26 07:12 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <r3fccatdi3uhf4hpuk5vclbv11haordp8r@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #277858 |
> Ezekiel wrote: >> >> I never used a PDP-11. My first *nix experience was with Ultrix running on a >> MicroVAX. It ran DEC-windows so opening up multiple terminals was trivial. I >> don't remember what the actual resolution was on the Ultrix workstations but >> the monitors seemed amazing compared to the typical PC monitor. Hey, Ezekreep. Tell us again how the GPL is hypocritical, as are all FOSS developer and advocates who think it's a good and fair license. -- 'So complete freedom is doesn't actually matter - as long as you think there are "enough freedoms."' - trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", attacking the GPL
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| From | BurfordTJustice <Burford@hub.dub> |
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| Date | 2015-01-26 08:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <20150126081929.00001958@hub.dub> |
| In reply to | #277966 |
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 07:12:05 -0600 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > Ezekiel wrote: > >> > >> I never used a PDP-11. My first *nix experience was with Ultrix > >> running on a MicroVAX. It ran DEC-windows so opening up multiple > >> terminals was trivial. I don't remember what the actual resolution > >> was on the Ultrix workstations but the monitors seemed amazing > >> compared to the typical PC monitor. > > Hey, Ezekreep. Tell us again how the GPL is hypocritical, as are all > FOSS developer and advocates who think it's a good and fair license. > You just said it well enough or are you Lying?
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