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Android overtakes Windows

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First post2017-04-03 09:11 -0500
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  Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 09:11 -0500
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 10:18 -0400
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 10:19 -0500
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-03 11:33 -0400
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 10:52 -0500
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 11:55 -0400
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 11:21 -0500
            Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-04 07:43 -0500
              Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 10:26 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 12:37 -0400
                  Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 21:43 -0400
                    Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:13 -0700
                    Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 08:32 -0400
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 12:34 -0400
      Re: Android overtakes Windows fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 08:58 -0700
      Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 14:56 -0400
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 12:03 -0700
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:15 -0700
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 14:49 -0500
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:57 -0700
          Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 19:47 -0400
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:21 -0500
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 18:42 -0700
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 17:41 -0400
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 16:45 -0500
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-03 11:31 -0400
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 11:58 -0400
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 11:01 -0500
        Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 15:25 -0400
        The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 12:59 -0700
          Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-04 11:52 -0700
            Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 08:25 -0400
              Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 10:27 -0400
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 12:43 -0400
                  Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Joe <Negrojoe@cottonpickers.edu> - 2017-04-04 18:52 +0000
                    Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 16:13 -0400
                    Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-04 18:42 -0400
                  Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 21:45 -0400
                    Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 08:39 -0400
                      Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-05 10:07 -0500
                        Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 11:53 -0400
                          Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 09:23 -0700
                      Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 09:34 -0700
              Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 08:57 -0700
    Re: Android overtakes Windows fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 08:48 -0700
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-03 17:56 +0200
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:58 -0700
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 11:13 -0500
        Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 15:35 -0400
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 12:39 -0700
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:53 -0700
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Fakey's Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-04-03 15:00 -0500
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-03 21:40 +0200
            Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 19:50 -0400
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:50 -0500
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-04 08:47 +0200
                Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-04 08:05 -0500
                  Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-04 15:28 +0200
                    Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 10:26 -0400
                      Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-04 16:49 +0200
                        Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 11:59 -0400
                          Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-04 23:36 +0200
                            Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-04 16:47 -0500
                              Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 14:57 -0700
                                Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-05 00:42 +0200
                                  Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 18:18 -0700
                                    Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-04 21:32 -0500
                                      Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 20:05 -0700
                                  Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 22:03 -0400
                                    Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:33 -0700
                                    Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-05 09:28 +0200
                                      Re: Android overtakes Windows William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2017-04-05 12:55 +0100
                                        Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-05 07:37 -0500
                                          Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 08:43 -0700
                              Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 21:45 -0400
                                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:09 -0700
                                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 08:26 -0400
                                  Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-05 07:37 -0500
                                    Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-05 09:04 -0500
                                      Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 10:21 -0400
                                        Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 08:52 -0700
                                        Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-05 18:37 -0400
                                          Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-06 00:42 +0200
                                          Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 20:39 -0400
                                      Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 09:18 -0700
                                    Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 10:19 -0400
                            Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 21:46 -0400
                              Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:07 -0700
                          Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 22:02 -0400
                            Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 08:30 -0400
                              Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-05 07:51 -0500
                                Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-05 09:06 -0500
                            Microsoft owns the "WorkStation" market. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-05 12:46 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft owns the "WorkStation" market. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-05 18:38 -0400
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 15:18 -0500
            My VoIP.MS service ( voice and text, cordless and Win10 ) costs pennies per month. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 13:30 -0700
              Re: My VoIP.MS service ( voice and text, cordless and Win10 ) costs pennies per month. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 15:49 -0500
                What's your AT&T wireless device, if not Android ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 15:31 -0700
                  Re: What's your AT&T wireless device, if not Android ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 17:45 -0500
            Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 16:35 -0400
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-03 22:44 +0200
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 15:55 -0500
                  Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 19:53 -0400
                    Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 17:44 -0700
                      Re: Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 18:12 -0700
                        Re: Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:59 -0500
                          Re: Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 19:07 -0700
                      Re: Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 10:28 -0400
                    Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:53 -0500
                      Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 18:56 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2017-04-03 23:10 +0100
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 15:52 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-04 07:53 -0500
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 17:45 -0400
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 17:44 -0400
      Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 16:35 -0400
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 11:16 -0700
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 14:22 -0500
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 12:32 -0700
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:45 -0700
    Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 14:55 -0400
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 12:00 -0700
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 14:29 -0500
        Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 19:49 -0400
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:38 -0500
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 18:52 -0700

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#405892

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2017-04-03 19:47 -0400
Message-ID<obumor$tn9$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#405786
On 4/3/2017 3:49 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
> On 2017-04-03, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:


>> It's like you howler monkeys see a shiny chart with an upward sloping
>> Linux curve, and reality just disappears from your peabrains.
>
> They are DooFuS. Remember that stupid link you gave me which showed
> active web servers blowing away Windows web servers. Hey show that
> again. It was good for a laugh at your expense. You sure are funny
> looking, mister.
>
> The world has adopted Linux/FOSS.

Only a tiny, tiny percent of the world actually chose a Linux-based OS.


> It has adopted in mobile to the tune of over 80%.

The world chose Android not because it runs a heavily-modified Linux kernel.

And Android is non-Free software developed by real developers at 
for-profit corporations.  Notice how badly Ubuntu Phone has failed.


> It has adopted in Super Computing to about 99%.

Well, that's about 500 computers.


> It has adopted it in major stock and commodities exchanges almost exclusively.

That's a few hundred/few thousand systems.


> The most active sites on the web.

Replacement for Unix.


> NetFlix runs on FreeBSD. Facebook,
> Google, Amazon all run on Linux.

Per netcraft, nearly 40% of web servers run Windows.

https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2017/03/24/march-2017-web-server-survey.html


That's for all you ignorant bozos who wrongly think "Linux powers the 
Internet".


> When Steve Jobs wanted to created the
> next operating system of the future, he started with the Mach kernel and
> created NeXTStep. When Apple wanted their next gen OS, they bought NeXT
> and created OSX, still  based on the Mach kernel.

Why are you talking about the Mach kernel?  That's related to BSD 
(Unix).  Has nothing to do with Linux.


> When Apple wanted
> their own browser, they took khtml and made webkit. Webkit is FOSS and
> it became Chrome. Chrome is the most popular browser out there.

Anything's better than IE and Firefox.  I've used Opera for years.


> Every where you look, you Neanderthal, you'll find the world adopting
> Linux/FOSS. What happened to Windows CE? What happened to Windows
> Mobile? All dead.

All 2 of them?  The Linux juggernaut is unstoppable!


> Those Chromebooks are sure selling like hotcakes. What
> were schools using prior to the greater than 50% adoption of
> chromebooks? They migrated from what exactly? Feathers and ink?


Some were using Windows laptops, some iPads, some Macs, etc.

They're not all migrating to cheap-ass Linux-based Chromebooks, that's 
for sure.  Think about the poor children...

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#405904

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2017-04-03 20:21 -0500
Message-ID<McqdncZz3L6baH_FnZ2dnUU7-c_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#405892
On 2017-04-03, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 4/3/2017 3:49 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>> On 2017-04-03, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> It's like you howler monkeys see a shiny chart with an upward sloping
>>> Linux curve, and reality just disappears from your peabrains.
>>
>> They are DooFuS. Remember that stupid link you gave me which showed
>> active web servers blowing away Windows web servers. Hey show that
>> again. It was good for a laugh at your expense. You sure are funny
>> looking, mister.
>>
>> The world has adopted Linux/FOSS.
>
> Only a tiny, tiny percent of the world actually chose a Linux-based OS.

The 1.6 million new activations per day of Android must seem small to
you then. And the majority of the education market in the United States
must also seem small to you. 

>> It has adopted in mobile to the tune of over 80%.
>
> The world chose Android not because it runs a heavily-modified Linux kernel.

Oh, how modified is this kernel from the mainline kernel now? Do share
your wisdom with us... It will good for a few laughs. 

> And Android is non-Free software developed by real developers at 
> for-profit corporations.  Notice how badly Ubuntu Phone has failed.

Wrong. Android is open source. That's why Amazon took it and used to as
the basis of their Kindle Fire products. It's completely free for anyone
to do such things. 

>> It has adopted in Super Computing to about 99%.
>
> Well, that's about 500 computers.

And yet not a windows one in there. 

>> It has adopted it in major stock and commodities exchanges almost exclusively.
>
> That's a few hundred/few thousand systems.

processing trillions of dollars in transactions every day. I wonder why
they don't trust Microsoft Windows NT for such things... 

>> The most active sites on the web.
>
> Replacement for Unix.

:)

>> NetFlix runs on FreeBSD. Facebook,
>> Google, Amazon all run on Linux.
>
> Per netcraft, nearly 40% of web servers run Windows.
>
> https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2017/03/24/march-2017-web-server-survey.html
>
>
> That's for all you ignorant bozos who wrongly think "Linux powers the 
> Internet".

It does. You just don't know how to read. What does it say about *active
servers* bozo. And let me clue you on something else that might blow
your little brain. If I create a web server on IIS that counts as one.
If Facebook creates several web servers and those service more than one
billion active users per day, is one of their web servers of equal
weight to one of mine, which services just me? I know, logic is a bitch
ain't it. 

>> When Steve Jobs wanted to created the
>> next operating system of the future, he started with the Mach kernel and
>> created NeXTStep. When Apple wanted their next gen OS, they bought NeXT
>> and created OSX, still  based on the Mach kernel.
>
> Why are you talking about the Mach kernel?  That's related to BSD 
> (Unix).  Has nothing to do with Linux.

It's related to FOSS. 

A.2 CMU License

Mach Operating System
Copyright © 1991,1990,1989 Carnegie Mellon University
All Rights Reserved.

Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute this software and its
documentation is hereby granted, provided that both the copyright notice
and this permission notice appear in all copies of the software,
derivative works or modified versions, and any portions thereof, and
that both notices appear in supporting documentation.

carnegie mellon allows free use of this software in its “as is”
condition. carnegie mellon disclaims any liability of any kind for any
damages whatsoever resulting from the use of this software.

Carnegie Mellon requests users of this software to return to

Software Distribution Coordinator
School of Computer Science
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890

or Software.Distribution@CS.CMU.EDU any improvements or extensions that
they make and grant Carnegie Mellon the rights to redistribute these
changes. 

>> When Apple wanted
>> their own browser, they took khtml and made webkit. Webkit is FOSS and
>> it became Chrome. Chrome is the most popular browser out there.
>
> Anything's better than IE and Firefox.  I've used Opera for years.
>
>> Every where you look, you Neanderthal, you'll find the world adopting
>> Linux/FOSS. What happened to Windows CE? What happened to Windows
>> Mobile? All dead.
>
> All 2 of them?  The Linux juggernaut is unstoppable!
>
>> Those Chromebooks are sure selling like hotcakes. What
>> were schools using prior to the greater than 50% adoption of
>> chromebooks? They migrated from what exactly? Feathers and ink?
>
> Some were using Windows laptops, some iPads, some Macs, etc.
>
> They're not all migrating to cheap-ass Linux-based Chromebooks, that's 
> for sure.  Think about the poor children...

Not all, but in the United States, greater than 50% of the education
market now uses Chromebooks. They beat Windows, Macs and iOS combined. 

-- 
Marek Novotný
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#405909

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-04-03 18:42 -0700
Message-ID<D5084828.9C954%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#405904
On 4/3/17, 6:21 PM, in article
McqdncZz3L6baH_FnZ2dnUU7-c_NnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
<marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:

>> And Android is non-Free software developed by real developers at
>> for-profit corporations.  Notice how badly Ubuntu Phone has failed.
> 
> Wrong. Android is open source.

Do you consider "Free" and "open source" to be the same thing?

Stallman tries to differentiate the two but I largely disagree with him.
Maybe you do, too.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#405841

FromSilver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er>
Date2017-04-03 17:41 -0400
Message-ID<4kzEA.149742$Jh.978@fx17.iad>
In reply to#405760
On 03/04/17 02:56 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 4/3/2017 10:18 AM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA256
>>
>> On 03/04/17 10:11 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> Android's popularity eclipses Windows among internet users.
>>>
>>> http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/3/15159320/android-windows-internet-usa
>> ge-statistics-competition
>>>
>>>  The trend away from Windows continues.
>>
>> Add to that Android tablets which, for about $100-$150, can do most of
>> what you would want to do with a computer and Microsoft is clearly in
>> trouble. If Apple succeeds with its push to replace laptops with the
>> iPad Pro, it won't take long before Android tablet manufacturers start
>> doing the same thing and Windows will be hurting.
>>
>> I, for one, am welcoming the migration from Windows. Its security
>> issues are too numerous and the end-user would benefit from no longer
>> being forced to be a victim of them. If Windows' power wanes, it will
>> also prompt game developers to move to powerful Android devices or
>> perhaps to take Linux more seriously and further decimate the client
>> base Windows currently enjoys. As I've said in the past, many people
>> are sticking to Windows because it is _the_ place to get the latest
>> games but if that is taken away from them, Windows won't be able to
>> hold onto people for very long.
> 
> 
> if if if if if if if if if if if if ... ad nauseum for 20+ years
> 
> You and the other "advocates" here (I say 'other' because you've
> transformed into a full-blown Linux bozo in just 3 weeks) are extremely
> deluded if you think the world is EVER going to wholesale migrate off
> Windows onto Linux/FOSS (which shouldn't but does include the non-Free
> Android).

Calling Android non-free is not entirely correct. After all, the source
code is available to lots of small companies who use it to make their
own flavour of it omitting unnecessary things like the Google suite of
software which ARE non-free.

As for being an "advocate," that's fine but I don't believe that I am
one since I'm still fairly honest about my experience and the problems
I'm facing or faced.

> It's like you howler monkeys see a shiny chart with an upward sloping
> Linux curve, and reality just disappears from your peabrains.

I said I _welcomed_ the migration, not that it's necessarily happening.
Gamers will be better served by Windows for the foreseeable future since
few companies are willing to invest in developing for Linux as a result
of its market being so small. However, they might be tempted to make
less graphic-intensive games which work on Android (or the same kind
which would work on more powerful Android devices) and doing so would
not make it difficult to port the same game to Linux. I

-- 
Silver Tongued-Heel
Korora Linux Sponsor
EFF & OpenMedia Member
Gab.ai: @silverslimer

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#405845

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2017-04-03 16:45 -0500
Message-ID<kPGdncwqCtDkX3_FnZ2dnUU7-e-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#405841
On 2017-04-03, Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> wrote:
> On 03/04/17 02:56 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 4/3/2017 10:18 AM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA256
>>>
>>> On 03/04/17 10:11 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> Android's popularity eclipses Windows among internet users.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/3/15159320/android-windows-internet-usa
>>> ge-statistics-competition
>>>>
>>>>  The trend away from Windows continues.
>>>
>>> Add to that Android tablets which, for about $100-$150, can do most of
>>> what you would want to do with a computer and Microsoft is clearly in
>>> trouble. If Apple succeeds with its push to replace laptops with the
>>> iPad Pro, it won't take long before Android tablet manufacturers start
>>> doing the same thing and Windows will be hurting.
>>>
>>> I, for one, am welcoming the migration from Windows. Its security
>>> issues are too numerous and the end-user would benefit from no longer
>>> being forced to be a victim of them. If Windows' power wanes, it will
>>> also prompt game developers to move to powerful Android devices or
>>> perhaps to take Linux more seriously and further decimate the client
>>> base Windows currently enjoys. As I've said in the past, many people
>>> are sticking to Windows because it is _the_ place to get the latest
>>> games but if that is taken away from them, Windows won't be able to
>>> hold onto people for very long.
>> 
>> 
>> if if if if if if if if if if if if ... ad nauseum for 20+ years
>> 
>> You and the other "advocates" here (I say 'other' because you've
>> transformed into a full-blown Linux bozo in just 3 weeks) are extremely
>> deluded if you think the world is EVER going to wholesale migrate off
>> Windows onto Linux/FOSS (which shouldn't but does include the non-Free
>> Android).
>
> Calling Android non-free is not entirely correct. After all, the source
> code is available to lots of small companies who use it to make their
> own flavour of it omitting unnecessary things like the Google suite of
> software which ARE non-free.
>
> As for being an "advocate," that's fine but I don't believe that I am
> one since I'm still fairly honest about my experience and the problems
> I'm facing or faced.
>
>> It's like you howler monkeys see a shiny chart with an upward sloping
>> Linux curve, and reality just disappears from your peabrains.
>
> I said I _welcomed_ the migration, not that it's necessarily happening.
> Gamers will be better served by Windows for the foreseeable future since
> few companies are willing to invest in developing for Linux as a result
> of its market being so small. However, they might be tempted to make
> less graphic-intensive games which work on Android (or the same kind
> which would work on more powerful Android devices) and doing so would
> not make it difficult to port the same game to Linux. I

Is this not an Linux/Android home entertainment system capable of
playing games?

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/

-- 
Marek Novotný
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#405706

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2017-04-03 11:31 -0400
Message-ID<obtq63$k01$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#405692
Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Android's popularity eclipses Windows among internet users.
>
> http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/3/15159320/android-windows-internet-usage-statistics-competition
>
> The trend away from Windows continues. 

I can just see Gates and Ballmer's red faces now, eyes bulging, spittle
flecking from their sputtering lips.  :-)

-- 
You will have a long and unpleasant discussion with your supervisor.

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#405716

FromSilver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er>
Date2017-04-03 11:58 -0400
Message-ID<CiuEA.101941$zc7.16444@fx09.iad>
In reply to#405706
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On 03/04/17 11:31 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
> royalties:
> 
>> Android's popularity eclipses Windows among internet users.
>> 
>> http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/3/15159320/android-windows-internet-us
age-statistics-competition
>>
>>
>> 
The trend away from Windows continues.
> 
> I can just see Gates and Ballmer's red faces now, eyes bulging,
> spittle flecking from their sputtering lips.  :-)

Where will Gates get the funding to buy "vaccines against polio" which
sterilize the Third-World people who receive them?

Will someone think of these poor children who will be missing out on
Bill Gates' "charity" and "philanthropy?"

- -- 
Silver Tongued-Heel
Korora Linux Sponsor
EFF & OpenMedia Member
Gab.ai: @silverslimer
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#405718

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2017-04-03 11:01 -0500
Message-ID<nLednfmfFvxH7H_FnZ2dnUU7-IfNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#405706
On 2017-04-03, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Android's popularity eclipses Windows among internet users.
>>
>> http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/3/15159320/android-windows-internet-usage-statistics-competition
>>
>> The trend away from Windows continues. 
>
> I can just see Gates and Ballmer's red faces now, eyes bulging, spittle
> flecking from their sputtering lips.  :-)

They still have a large and profitable Desktop computer platform. No
doubt about that. But I do think that the whole compute space, which
means desktop, server, cloud, mobile, IoT and infrastructure shows that
Microsoft is indeed going micro and soft. The developer survey shows
developers are trending away from Microsoft. We might even see some kind
of inflection which causes a domino effect. 

-- 
Marek Novotný
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#405772

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2017-04-03 15:25 -0400
Message-ID<obu7d3$74i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#405718
On 4/3/2017 12:01 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
> On 2017-04-03, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Android's popularity eclipses Windows among internet users.
>>>
>>> http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/3/15159320/android-windows-internet-usage-statistics-competition
>>>
>>> The trend away from Windows continues.
>>
>> I can just see Gates and Ballmer's red faces now, eyes bulging, spittle
>> flecking from their sputtering lips.  :-)
>
> They still have a large and profitable Desktop computer platform. No
> doubt about that. But I do think that the whole compute space, which
> means desktop, server, cloud, mobile, IoT and infrastructure shows that
> Microsoft is indeed going micro and soft.

Babble babble babble.  Don't you get sick of being stupid?

MS makes HUGE money on desktops, servers and cloud.


> The developer survey shows
> developers are trending away from Microsoft. We might even see some kind
> of inflection which causes a domino effect.

Keep hope alive!

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#405789 — The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2017-04-03 12:59 -0700
SubjectThe iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--0.59P.Seattle.2017>
In reply to#405718
The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls
who tweet all day about impossible boyfriends.

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#405957 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-04-04 11:52 -0700
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<58E3EB80.2A82@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#405789
Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> 
> The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls
> who tweet all day about impossible boyfriends.

for romantic young girls, the iPhone is their bluebox.

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#405971 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromSilver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er>
Date2017-04-04 08:25 -0400
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<ihMEA.297102$XG2.222631@fx08.iad>
In reply to#405957
On 2017-04-04 2:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>
>> The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls
>> who tweet all day about impossible boyfriends.
> 
> for romantic young girls, the iPhone is their bluebox.

My 13-14 year-old students swear by iPhone no matter how great the
hardware is on the Android side. Apple is great at appealing to the
baser instincts of a female wherein the hardware needs to be pretty, the
operating system elegant and the functionality as simple as possible.

Now we know why Snit Michael Glasser Prescott Computer Guy also swears
bu it.

-- 
Silver Tongued-Heel
OpenMedia & EFF Member
Gab.ai: @silverslimer

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#405989 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2017-04-04 10:27 -0400
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<oc0aa5$9qo$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#405971
On 4/4/2017 8:25 AM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
> On 2017-04-04 2:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>
>>> The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls
>>> who tweet all day about impossible boyfriends.
>>
>> for romantic young girls, the iPhone is their bluebox.
>
> My 13-14 year-old students swear by iPhone no matter how great the
> hardware is on the Android side. Apple is great at appealing to the
> baser instincts of a female wherein the hardware needs to be pretty, the
> operating system elegant and the functionality as simple as possible.


Same for BMW autos and Korora Linux.


<quote>
Using a special blend of aesthetics and functionality, Korora aims to 
make Linux easier for new users without compromising its power and 
flexibility for experts.

We provide a complete and easy to use computing system that "Just Works" 
– right out of the box.
</quote>


Know anyone who uses both products?  :)

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#406025 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromSilver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er>
Date2017-04-04 12:43 -0400
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<J2QEA.150544$I%4.25779@fx10.iad>
In reply to#405989
On 2017-04-04 10:27 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 4/4/2017 8:25 AM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
>> On 2017-04-04 2:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls
>>>> who tweet all day about impossible boyfriends.
>>>
>>> for romantic young girls, the iPhone is their bluebox.
>>
>> My 13-14 year-old students swear by iPhone no matter how great the
>> hardware is on the Android side. Apple is great at appealing to the
>> baser instincts of a female wherein the hardware needs to be pretty, the
>> operating system elegant and the functionality as simple as possible.
> 
> 
> Same for BMW autos and Korora Linux.

Speaking of the latter, I had to uninstall it yesterday because it kept
freezing after I had dared to install quodlibet, gmusicbrowser and
guayadeque at the same time and then removed all three. I'm not sure
_what_ happened exactly but gstreamer ended up having some terrible
conflict which ended up freezing the computer and overheating the CPU.
The only thing which points me in that direction is the fact that some
.OGG files played, others refused to and any song I changed the rating
on became corrupted. I tried fixing it every which way but I am
admittedly not as good at it as some of the guys in here and didn't know
where to start. While I enjoyed the experience of Linux in general
immensely, I wasn't ready to sacrifice my hardware and went back to
Windows. I couldn't help but notice that the CPU was running at 91c for
a while when I returned so it looks like it was definitely about to
damage something.

I've since purchased Bitdefender to at least have some _sense_ of
security in Windows in the meantime.

As for BMW, I don't see what you might have against the company since
its cars are beyond awesome and pick up brain-dead women (the majority
of them) like a 15" cock.

> <quote>
> Using a special blend of aesthetics and functionality, Korora aims to
> make Linux easier for new users without compromising its power and
> flexibility for experts.
> 
> We provide a complete and easy to use computing system that "Just Works"
> – right out of the box.
> </quote>
> 
> 
> Know anyone who uses both products?  :)

Even though you're a dick, you know I still like you, right?


-- 
Silver Tongued-Heel
OpenMedia & EFF Member
Gab.ai: @silverslimer

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#406050 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromJoe <Negrojoe@cottonpickers.edu>
Date2017-04-04 18:52 +0000
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<oc0q1f$5b8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#406025
On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 12:43:21 -0400, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:

> On 2017-04-04 10:27 AM, DFS wrote:
>> On 4/4/2017 8:25 AM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-04 2:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls who tweet all day
>>>>> about impossible boyfriends.
>>>>
>>>> for romantic young girls, the iPhone is their bluebox.
>>>
>>> My 13-14 year-old students swear by iPhone no matter how great the
>>> hardware is on the Android side. Apple is great at appealing to the
>>> baser instincts of a female wherein the hardware needs to be pretty,
>>> the operating system elegant and the functionality as simple as
>>> possible.
>> 
>> 
>> Same for BMW autos and Korora Linux.
> 
> Speaking of the latter, I had to uninstall it yesterday because it kept
> freezing after I had dared to install quodlibet, gmusicbrowser and
> guayadeque at the same time and then removed all three. I'm not sure
> _what_ happened exactly but gstreamer ended up having some terrible
> conflict which ended up freezing the computer and overheating the CPU.
> The only thing which points me in that direction is the fact that some
> .OGG files played, others refused to and any song I changed the rating
> on became corrupted. I tried fixing it every which way but I am
> admittedly not as good at it as some of the guys in here and didn't know
> where to start. While I enjoyed the experience of Linux in general
> immensely, I wasn't ready to sacrifice my hardware and went back to
> Windows. I couldn't help but notice that the CPU was running at 91c for
> a while when I returned so it looks like it was definitely about to
> damage something.

That didn't take long.
So who won the pool?

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#406062 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromSilver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er>
Date2017-04-04 16:13 -0400
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<V7TEA.207740$iw5.144436@fx22.iad>
In reply to#406050
On 2017-04-04 2:52 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 12:43:21 -0400, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-04-04 10:27 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 4/4/2017 8:25 AM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
>>>> On 2017-04-04 2:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls who tweet all day
>>>>>> about impossible boyfriends.
>>>>>
>>>>> for romantic young girls, the iPhone is their bluebox.
>>>>
>>>> My 13-14 year-old students swear by iPhone no matter how great the
>>>> hardware is on the Android side. Apple is great at appealing to the
>>>> baser instincts of a female wherein the hardware needs to be pretty,
>>>> the operating system elegant and the functionality as simple as
>>>> possible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Same for BMW autos and Korora Linux.
>>
>> Speaking of the latter, I had to uninstall it yesterday because it kept
>> freezing after I had dared to install quodlibet, gmusicbrowser and
>> guayadeque at the same time and then removed all three. I'm not sure
>> _what_ happened exactly but gstreamer ended up having some terrible
>> conflict which ended up freezing the computer and overheating the CPU.
>> The only thing which points me in that direction is the fact that some
>> .OGG files played, others refused to and any song I changed the rating
>> on became corrupted. I tried fixing it every which way but I am
>> admittedly not as good at it as some of the guys in here and didn't know
>> where to start. While I enjoyed the experience of Linux in general
>> immensely, I wasn't ready to sacrifice my hardware and went back to
>> Windows. I couldn't help but notice that the CPU was running at 91c for
>> a while when I returned so it looks like it was definitely about to
>> damage something.
> 
> That didn't take long.
> So who won the pool?

It's not because I didn't like the experience. In fact, I felt very safe
in Linux and found that I spent more time focusing on my work rather
than wondering if things needed to be scanned for viruses or cleaned for
performance. However, if a system is constantly freezing on me (five
times in a row last night), not playing certain music files in a
situation which seems unfixable in addition to giving me screen colour
issues, I might not be ready.

Whatever, call me what you want but I don't hate Linux at all.


-- 
Silver Tongued-Heel
OpenMedia & EFF Member
Gab.ai: @silverslimer

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#406089 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2017-04-04 18:42 -0400
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<oc17oq$ol8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#406050
Joe wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 12:43:21 -0400, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-04 10:27 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 4/4/2017 8:25 AM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
>>>> On 2017-04-04 2:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls who tweet all day
>>>>>> about impossible boyfriends.
>>>>>
>>>>> for romantic young girls, the iPhone is their bluebox.
>>>>
>>>> My 13-14 year-old students swear by iPhone no matter how great the
>>>> hardware is on the Android side. Apple is great at appealing to the
>>>> baser instincts of a female wherein the hardware needs to be pretty,
>>>> the operating system elegant and the functionality as simple as
>>>> possible.
>>> 
>>> Same for BMW autos and Korora Linux.
>> 
>> Speaking of the latter, I had to uninstall it yesterday because it kept
>> freezing after I had dared to install quodlibet, gmusicbrowser and
>> guayadeque at the same time and then removed all three. I'm not sure
>> _what_ happened exactly but gstreamer ended up having some terrible
>> conflict which ended up freezing the computer and overheating the CPU.
>> The only thing which points me in that direction is the fact that some
>> .OGG files played, others refused to and any song I changed the rating
>> on became corrupted. I tried fixing it every which way but I am
>> admittedly not as good at it as some of the guys in here and didn't know
>> where to start. While I enjoyed the experience of Linux in general
>> immensely, I wasn't ready to sacrifice my hardware and went back to
>> Windows. I couldn't help but notice that the CPU was running at 91c for
>> a while when I returned so it looks like it was definitely about to
>> damage something.
>
> That didn't take long.
> So who won the pool?

Pool?  More likely a toilet.

-- 
She is not refined.  She is not unrefined.  She keeps a parrot.
		-- Mark Twain

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#406112 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2017-04-04 21:45 -0400
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<oc1i0v$hi0$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#406025
On 4/4/2017 12:43 PM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
> On 2017-04-04 10:27 AM, DFS wrote:

>> Same for BMW autos and Korora Linux.
>
> Speaking of the latter, I had to uninstall it yesterday because it kept
> freezing after I had dared to install quodlibet, gmusicbrowser and
> guayadeque at the same time and then removed all three. I'm not sure
> _what_ happened exactly but gstreamer ended up having some terrible
> conflict which ended up freezing the computer and overheating the CPU.
> The only thing which points me in that direction is the fact that some
> .OGG files played, others refused to and any song I changed the rating
> on became corrupted. I tried fixing it every which way but I am
> admittedly not as good at it as some of the guys in here and didn't know
> where to start. While I enjoyed the experience of Linux in general
> immensely, I wasn't ready to sacrifice my hardware and went back to
> Windows.


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
  Thunderbird/45.8.0

You're not even kidding!

Holy Crapoly!  This is what, about half a dozen neck snaps in the past 6 
months?  You may need to see a shrink about these commitment issues.

Now that you're back, doesn't it feel better to run a real, non-hobbyist 
OS that doesn't flake out on you on the regular?



> I couldn't help but notice that the CPU was running at 91c for
> a while when I returned so it looks like it was definitely about to
> damage something.
>
> I've since purchased Bitdefender to at least have some _sense_ of
> security in Windows in the meantime.

"in the meantime"?  Does that mean a return to Linux is imminent?



> As for BMW, I don't see what you might have against the company since
> its cars are beyond awesome and pick up brain-dead women (the majority
> of them) like a 15" cock.

I have nothing against BMW - if you like to hugely overpay the same way 
you have to for Apple gear.



>> <quote>
>> Using a special blend of aesthetics and functionality, Korora aims to
>> make Linux easier for new users without compromising its power and
>> flexibility for experts.
>>
>> We provide a complete and easy to use computing system that "Just Works"
>> – right out of the box.
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>> Know anyone who uses both products?  :)
>
> Even though you're a dick, you know I still like you, right?


Of course!  (fist bump then hand explosion representing a Linux crapbox 
blowing up)

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#406196 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromSilver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er>
Date2017-04-05 08:39 -0400
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<7A5FA.211311$iw5.30841@fx22.iad>
In reply to#406112
On 2017-04-04 9:45 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 4/4/2017 12:43 PM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
>> On 2017-04-04 10:27 AM, DFS wrote:
> 
>>> Same for BMW autos and Korora Linux.
>>
>> Speaking of the latter, I had to uninstall it yesterday because it kept
>> freezing after I had dared to install quodlibet, gmusicbrowser and
>> guayadeque at the same time and then removed all three. I'm not sure
>> _what_ happened exactly but gstreamer ended up having some terrible
>> conflict which ended up freezing the computer and overheating the CPU.
>> The only thing which points me in that direction is the fact that some
>> .OGG files played, others refused to and any song I changed the rating
>> on became corrupted. I tried fixing it every which way but I am
>> admittedly not as good at it as some of the guys in here and didn't know
>> where to start. While I enjoyed the experience of Linux in general
>> immensely, I wasn't ready to sacrifice my hardware and went back to
>> Windows.
> 
> 
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
>  Thunderbird/45.8.0
> 
> You're not even kidding!
> 
> Holy Crapoly!  This is what, about half a dozen neck snaps in the past 6
> months?  You may need to see a shrink about these commitment issues.
> 
> Now that you're back, doesn't it feel better to run a real, non-hobbyist
> OS that doesn't flake out on you on the regular?

I still love Linux and will eventually make my way back but I wasn't
sure what those freezes were doing to my hardware, couldn't fix them and
wasn't willing to take the chance that it might end up cooking something
and forcing a replacement. What you consider to be commitment issues I
see as a desire to get out of proprietary operating systems completely
but an inability to do so effectively. Like I said in another post, I
wouldn't have been willing to return to Windows if I hadn't found an
anti-virus which truly defends against malware.

>> I couldn't help but notice that the CPU was running at 91c for
>> a while when I returned so it looks like it was definitely about to
>> damage something.
>>
>> I've since purchased Bitdefender to at least have some _sense_ of
>> security in Windows in the meantime.
> 
> "in the meantime"?  Does that mean a return to Linux is imminent?

Of course. There's a reason I keep going back and forth and getting so
frustrated when it doesn't work out. I kept pointing the finger at Linux
itself but it's not necessarily the whole issue. Marek has made it
fairly clear to me that I need to increase my knowledge of the operating
system before I can truly hope to use it on a day-to-day basis so I'll
read more, learn more and eventually get back to it.

>> As for BMW, I don't see what you might have against the company since
>> its cars are beyond awesome and pick up brain-dead women (the majority
>> of them) like a 15" cock.
> 
> I have nothing against BMW - if you like to hugely overpay the same way
> you have to for Apple gear.

In the three years that I've owned my BMW, the _one_ issue I had with it
is that cluster screwed up (what manages the infotainment set-up). It
was replaced for free and was such an unlikely problem that the
mechanics were totally stumped by it. I had to get a piece from Germany
directly since it's the kind of thing that _never_ fails. In every other
way, it's spectacular. Compare that to my Volvo s40 from 2001 and my
Jeep Patriot, both of which would break if a gust of wind was too
strong, and you can understand why I'm willing to remain in the BMW
camp. Besides, when my cluster broke, I asked for a BMW X3 and drove it
for a day... it was the most brilliant driving experience I had ever had.

>>> <quote>
>>> Using a special blend of aesthetics and functionality, Korora aims to
>>> make Linux easier for new users without compromising its power and
>>> flexibility for experts.
>>>
>>> We provide a complete and easy to use computing system that "Just Works"
>>> – right out of the box.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>>
>>> Know anyone who uses both products?  :)
>>
>> Even though you're a dick, you know I still like you, right?
> 
> Of course!  (fist bump then hand explosion representing a Linux crapbox
> blowing up)

LOL.

-- 
Silver Tongued-Heel
OpenMedia & EFF Member
Gab.ai: @silverslimer

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#406220 — Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2017-04-05 10:07 -0500
SubjectRe: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
Message-ID<mt-dnUcE36TVlXjFnZ2dnUU7-VfNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#406196
On 2017-04-05, Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> wrote:

// snip

> frustrated when it doesn't work out. I kept pointing the finger at Linux
> itself but it's not necessarily the whole issue. Marek has made it
> fairly clear to me that I need to increase my knowledge of the operating
> system before I can truly hope to use it on a day-to-day basis so I'll
> read more, learn more and eventually get back to it.

If you truly want to make this switch you have to stop running away when
things get difficult. You have to be able to overcome issues or at least
switch to a distro that is easier until such time you find it is no
longer needed. Lots of Linux users distro-hop and find it part of the
fun. 

I would suggest Ubuntu and/or Mint for the general purpose user. And
then the next time you buy hardware you buy with Linux in mind so that
you don't experience problems. 

If I am using Fedora I expect an issue here and there with my manual
installation of the nvidia drivers. But that same Fedora install with a
good intel GPU is no problem at all. If I wanted to use Steam I might go
with Ubuntu / Mint as both make working with nvidia quite simple and
adding steam is a piece of pie.

-- 
Marek Novotný
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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