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Re: Why is there so much politics?

From Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Why is there so much politics?
Date 2023-09-29 19:21 -0500
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On 9/29/2023 6:21 AM, RonB wrote:
> On 2023-09-28, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/28/2023 12:00 PM, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-28, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/27/2023 11:09 AM, RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-09-26, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-09-25 9:35 p.m., Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/25/2023 7:45 PM, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In 18 years of using Linux I've never had it fail me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the same 18 years, I've had only one occasion that Linux didn't fail me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trust me, I know that feeling. Linux is basically the kind of thing you
>>>>>> love and absolutely want to love, like a child, but it either gets bad
>>>>>> grades, gets into trouble with the law or ends up waking up at 2am and
>>>>>> repeating "Maya" a few thousand times like my 3-year-old does.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Linux installs have always been well-behaved.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then it must depend on what one is doing with the computer. I must be
>>>> doing stuff you don't and vice versa.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing you have newer and more sophisticated equipment and higher
>>> demands.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What equipment is good enough (i.e. old enough) for having Linux on it
>> without problems? Give me an example. I'm willing to try if I can.
>>
>> And what should I not do on my computer if I have Linux as its OS. I
>> mean if Linux is just good enough for getting on usenet so some juvenile
>> delinquent "Relf" could dox you, then what's the point of leaving win10
>> for Linux? I've checked Linux on all sorts of equipments. None worked
>> right. I don't even understand why there is a newsgroup for it.
>>
>> The ones I checked that are within easy reach:
>>
>> - Dell OptiPlex 980 desktop, win7 and win10
>> - Dell OptiPlex 960 desktop, win Vista
>> - HP Compaq 8000 Elite (small form factor) desktop, win7
>> - Samsung Notebook 600B laptop, win7 and win10
>> - Acer Aspire One D255E mini laptop, win7
>>
>> I even have an HP Pavilion 553x desktop from 20 years back that worked
>> with winXP, but that one doesn't see the internet at all when I attach
>> the Ethernet cable. Don't know it is equipment or OS.
>>
>> I'm fairly certain I tried some form of Linux on each one of the above
>> and none worked well, forcing me to remove the OS and put the old one back.
>>
>> Is it asking too much from Linux to provide a means by which one could
>> develop some rather simple C++ code? Or watch a tolerable enough HD
>> pirated movie that last year came out? Or use MS Office's great programs
>> to run one's every aspect of life with?
>>
>> So give me an example of hardware on which some form of Linux worked
>> without problem. If you know that any of the above computers I listed
>> works without problems with some form of Linux program, I'm willing to
>> put in the time to try that.
>>
>> Linux is free, sure, but which individual ever paid a dime to MS for any
>> of their great tools.
> 
> For what I do, any business Dell computer (laptop or desktop) built from
> about 2012 on up should be fine (I would now avoid an Intel Dual Core CPU,
> as it may not stream HD well.)
> 
> To clarify, what I do is general computer activities. Browse the Internet,
> write, listen to music, store eBooks, use email, edit pictures, stream
> videos and experiment. I DON'T compile code, or create audio video
> presentations, or play games, or try to run Microsoft Office under Wine.
> 
> I'm typing this on a Dell Optiplex 3020 Micro desktop, with 16 GBs of RAM, a
> 500 GB SSD (which also has a Windows 10 partition), and an i5-4590T CPU (4
> cores and 4 threads). It uses an Intel 7260 WiFi and BlueTooth card. I'm
> currently running Linux Mint 20.3 on it, using (primarily) the Cinnamon
> desktop (but Xfce and Mate are also installed).
> 
> You can often find these little computers on Shop Goodwill for about $30 to
> $40 – some upgrading might be necessary.
> 
> Good luck. In the list you show, I would use the Dell Optiplex 980, though
> they are older tech than my 3020m. 1333 MT/s DDR3 RAM vs 1600 MT/s DDR3 RAM.
> Both will support up to 16 GBs of RAM. It looks like the 980 was first made
> in 2010, the 3020m came out in 2015. I have an Optiplex 780, which I think
> is very similar to the 980. It uses a dual core CPU, which is one of the
> choices for your 980. If your 980 uses an i3, i5 or i7 CPU, it will be (I
> believe) a first generation version. The 3020m uses a 4th generation CPU.
> And, I think, your 980 might use a GeForce 1650 GTX video card. I would
> (personally) prefer an Intel one. Fewer issues.
> 
> The 960 is older and slower. I (personally) would probably want something a
> little newer than the 980, especially if it us using a dual core CPU. I
> don't know enough about the other computers to comment on their suitability
> for Linux. I assume they would work. I mostly stick with Dell business
> machines.
> 


My Optiplex 980 in front says intel core i5 Vpro, whatever that means. I 
have since removed the video card and don't know where it is. There is a 
  video card labeled GeForceGT630Graphic on its back that's sitting by, 
which might be the one that came out of this one.

You don't compile code because you choose to, or because Linux might 
have difficulty with it?

Another question (if I may): Suppose you involve yourself in some State 
or Federal task about some aspect of life in USA (property tax, income 
tax return, matters of title, immigration, etc) and are required to get 
on internet extensively for a few days and read and download documents 
and upload many documents that you create on your computer to their 
sites and print some of their forms to be filled and mailed by snail 
mail, etc. Stuff of this nature that's common in USA for just everybody, 
sometimes. Or you may be looking for a job and have to go through 
similar activities. Or divorce, etc.

Does a Linux machine handle this level of activity without problems? You 
know, when you're busy concentrating on such matters, you don't want 
your Operating System come to life and get in between and tell you what 
you can and what you cannot do, or you have to download and install such 
and such package first, or you have to first know how to do such and 
such tasks on a Linux machine to take care of one of the required steps, 
so you can, say, print this form. You don't want interference, one bit. 
You want to concentrate and get things done as fast and as well as 
possible so you can then get on with your life. You want service from 
your machine, period, not serving it yet some more before being able to 
use it.

Can my OptiPlex 980 with some flavor of Linux on it do that without 
problem? I can put that GeForce car in it. It has two empty slots for 
ram. I can get two 4g or two 8g ram for it. I'd like to have such system 
ready as a back up in case something like one of the above mentioned 
tasks comes up (they do come up about three or four times each year) and 
my everyday win10 machine starts acting up (not the one that has video 
issues right now). Having a good back up system with a reliable Linux 
machine equipped with all necessary software that can reliably perform 
the tasks needed is a good idea.

I'm imagining right now you may reply to this post saying, "Just stick 
with your win10". Hahahhahha :-))







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                Re: Why is there so much politics? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 19:01 -0500
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                Re: Why is there so much politics? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 17:09 -0700
                Re: Why is there so much politics? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 19:17 -0500
                Re: Why is there so much politics? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 17:08 -0700
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                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-26 21:21 -0400
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2023-09-27 07:27 -0500
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 08:36 -0400
                Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 06:33 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-27 14:46 +0000
                Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 08:26 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 02:17 +0000
                More leg room, less claustrophobia. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 20:08 -0700
                Re: More leg room, less claustrophobia. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 13:53 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 16:46 +0000
                Squat wherever/whenever you'd like. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-28 11:09 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 00:25 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 19:07 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 16:10 -0700
                Russia, the top wheat exporter, equals Canada & America combined. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-29 16:55 -0700
                Re: Russia, the top wheat exporter, equals Canada & America combined. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 17:05 -0700
                Squatting & Shooting. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-29 17:50 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-30 01:20 +0000
                Putin, Kim JongUn & Xi are falling into the abyss. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-29 18:33 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 19:24 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-30 02:47 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-30 01:05 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-30 08:27 -0400
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-30 06:15 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 14:09 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 21:27 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-30 14:29 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 16:39 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-30 15:10 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 17:40 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-10-01 02:54 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 15:39 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 15:44 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 15:48 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 15:58 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 20:43 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-30 14:28 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 16:34 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 02:25 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 16:41 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 13:59 -0400
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 12:48 -0400
                Re: Russia is trespassing. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 14:40 -0400
                1783, Russia stole Crimea from the Tatars. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 12:00 -0700
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2023-09-27 15:10 -0500
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 16:49 -0400
                Joining NATO's Sewing Circle. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 14:00 -0700
                Re: Joining NATO's Sewing Circle. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 17:26 -0400
                Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 16:57 -0700
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 20:11 -0400
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 16:56 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 16:09 -0400
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 00:21 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 09:53 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 16:12 -0400
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 00:13 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 21:15 -0400
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 01:33 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 21:47 -0400
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 03:43 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-29 11:13 -0400
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2023-09-29 06:49 -0500
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-29 11:45 -0400
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 18:08 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 15:49 -0700
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 10:03 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2023-09-29 06:49 -0500
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 15:51 -0700
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 01:29 +0000
                Re: Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 16:58 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 23:22 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 19:54 -0400
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 16:33 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 01:35 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 16:38 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 00:28 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 09:34 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 19:05 +0000
                Re: Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 01:13 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 16:32 +0000
                Like the homeless, Ukraine/America can't afford walls. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 10:56 -0700
                Re: Like the homeless, Ukraine/America can't afford walls. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 14:39 -0400
                Re: Like the homeless, Ukraine/America can't afford walls. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 01:37 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 14:35 -0400
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 23:02 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 19:42 -0400
                Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 17:32 -0700
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 08:46 -0400
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 15:33 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 12:15 -0400
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 17:16 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 16:17 -0400
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 00:46 +0000
                By their deeds ye shall know them. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-28 18:03 -0700
                Re: By their deeds ye shall know them. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 23:32 -0500
                Re: By their deeds ye shall know them. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 23:39 -0500
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 21:20 -0400
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 01:30 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 21:32 -0400
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 03:49 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-29 11:25 -0400
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 18:05 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-29 16:40 -0400
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 10:36 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 10:34 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 18:15 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 10:11 +0000
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-29 11:35 -0400
                Re: Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 01:50 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 15:22 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 12:12 -0400
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 17:08 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 00:48 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 09:43 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-29 11:28 -0400
                Once cruise missiles bankrupt Putin, he & Xi will vanish. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-29 08:53 -0700
                Re: Once cruise missiles bankrupt Putin, he & Xi will vanish. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-29 12:25 -0400
                Xi's MandateFromHell follows Kim JongUn into the abyss "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-29 11:04 -0700
                Re: Xi's MandateFromHell follows Kim JongUn into the abyss RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-29 16:35 -0400
                Re: Xi's MandateFromHell follows Kim JongUn into the abyss rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-30 01:35 +0000
                Re: Once cruise missiles bankrupt Putin, he & Xi will vanish. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 00:55 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 15:53 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 19:02 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 16:09 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-30 01:24 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-29 19:29 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 02:44 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-30 03:12 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 01:03 +0000
                Buryats, Yakuts & prisoners. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 17:10 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2023-09-27 23:52 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-27 14:43 +0000
                Challengers Vanish. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 08:20 -0700
                Re: Challengers Vanish. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 02:31 +0000
                Re: Challengers Vanish. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 16:39 +0000
                Re: Challengers Vanish. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 00:24 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 16:28 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 14:28 -0400
                BetterWalls_BiggerBalls. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 11:44 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 01:42 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 08:48 -0400
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-28 13:55 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 11:04 -0400
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 16:24 +0000
                Sieg Heil, mein Führer, Kim JongUn ! "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-28 09:47 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-28 16:00 -0400
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 09:37 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 01:01 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 09:46 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 18:46 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 01:08 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-30 03:22 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 15:45 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-09-29 01:03 +0000
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 21:36 -0500
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 20:47 -0700
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 19:49 -0500
                ClutterFreak, Are you "Mehram Maleki" ? "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-27 20:00 -0700
                Re: ClutterFreak, Are you "Mehram Maleki" ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 23:10 -0500
                Re: ClutterFreak, Are you "Mehram Maleki" ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 13:53 -0500
                ClutterFreak & Hanson, Apr 14, 2016. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-30 14:11 -0700
                Re: ClutterFreak & Hanson, Apr 14, 2016. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 16:26 -0500
                HaHaHanson & Archimedes Plutonium. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-30 14:47 -0700
                Re: HaHaHanson & Archimedes Plutonium. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 17:24 -0500
                You asked Google to _NOT_INDEX_ the offending post. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-09-30 17:46 -0700
                Re: You asked Google to _NOT_INDEX_ the offending post. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 21:37 -0500
                Re: You asked Google to _NOT_INDEX_ the offending post. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 14:46 -0500
                Re: ClutterFreak, Are you "Mehram Maleki" ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 20:24 -0500
                FitFreak keeps doxing himself, over and over again. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-10-01 20:12 -0700
                Re: FitFreak keeps doxing himself, over and over again. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 22:39 -0500
                FitFreak keeps doxing himself, over and over again. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-10-01 21:45 -0700
                Re: FitFreak keeps doxing himself, over and over again. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-02 00:07 -0500
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 19:48 -0500
                Re: Dictators kill dissenters. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 23:11 -0500
                Re: Why is there so much politics? DFS <dfs@nospam.com> - 2023-09-30 09:29 -0400
                Re: Why is there so much politics? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 14:03 -0500
                Re: Why is there so much politics? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-01 14:52 -0500
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-24 16:59 -0400
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 00:54 +0000
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-26 13:27 -0400
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 17:10 +0000
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-24 17:02 +0000
    Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-20 07:46 -0400
      Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-21 00:37 +0000
        Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-21 07:55 -0400
          Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-21 17:49 +0000
            Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-21 14:20 -0400
              Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-22 02:10 +0000
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-22 08:52 -0400
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-24 16:58 +0000
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-24 16:52 -0400
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 00:38 +0000
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-26 13:19 -0400
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 16:49 +0000
                Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-27 14:36 -0400
        Re: Why is there so much politics? Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-09-21 10:02 -0700
          Re: Why is there so much politics? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2023-09-21 17:53 +0000
            Re: Why is there so much politics? Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-09-21 13:49 -0700
          Re: Why is there so much politics? RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-09-21 14:16 -0400
            Re: Why is there so much politics? Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-09-21 13:45 -0700
              Re: Why is there so much politics? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2023-09-23 09:00 +0000

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