Re: KDE Goes Wayland

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: KDE Goes Wayland
Date	2025-12-06 20:23 +0000
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:27:22 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 06/12/2025 08:55, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 23:30:45 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     Wayland, at this point it's clear it will NEVER be ready for prime
>>>     time. They've been at it forever and it's STILL all weird.
>> 
>> Currently I have 3 computers with Wayland and one with x11. No problema
>> with any of them.
> 
> That is reassuring to hear.
> 
> I have no issues with dumping X windows.
> 
> MAC OS-X worked fine without it. Insofar as anything apple ever works
> 'fine'
> 
> All I want is a GUI that does CAD and I can play a couple of games on or
> watch videos

Luckily I don't have to worry about legacy CAD (computer aided dispatch) 
software any longer. It has about a 30 year tail and was developed using 
Motif. With Motif sooner or later you're going to go spelunking past Xt 
and down into the bowels of Xlib to do stuff Wayland is designed to 
forbid. Also, with that long a history MVC has went to hell and business 
logic has found its way into Motif widgets.

When we moved to a browser based interface using Angular the backend code 
remained the same but all the legacy UI was good for was a model.

There is no easy path or magic wand for legacy X applications. I don't 
know how many still exist and are widely used. Somehow I don't think Xsnow 
will make it to Wayland. At this point it only snows on the wallpaper.

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