Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!nuzba.szn.dk!pnx.dk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: William Poaster Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:00:17 +0100 Organization: Dumb Willie Boaster @ Llareggub Inc. Lines: 105 Message-ID: References: <20130331084434.973@usenet.drumscum.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net LNoMmJpcul1mkwEdZJfsuQr+QWi0/6hJRUZBKNBFjeRArYj0DG X-Orig-Path: wp.alpha-one.linuxorg!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:iqyV/1yC2LxhsFRt2VgzIwcG7dk= User-Agent: XPN/1.2.6 (Street Spirit ; Linux) X-COLA-Trolls: Listed at- http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/ X-COLA-Trolls: Are teminated with extreme prejudice. X-Face: `5p?S@A"Hj=JY)*EuzB=o4pQ-H];}&qS[Z8OM|sCiN!hSBk7v.$w\}p`x$[DWO/EyVN*g+,)KcwTz1,):c:{VxpULJ*RoJuTkL=ZeBG9U%q:tM/~xY**Y$V<*@*)VL#%_.w+3^V;D~d/O_fj//RB},D+X`I.Q{`xOzaLd.]C3O_6 After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom: > >> Hadron wrote: >> >>> TomB writes: >>> >>>> On 2013-03-30, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom: >>>>> http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/03/standardization-as-road-to- >> more-choice.html >>>>> >>>>> Not that I agree with it, and not that it doesn't contain some of the >>>>> usual Snit derisive innuendo and buzzwords ("unified system").. >>> >>> If you dont agree with consistency and standardization across a deskop's >>> apps you have no place in QA. > > I guess that's why I'm not in QA, then, bucko. > >>> The article was spot on and is a parallel to things like coding >>> standards (try putting C code into the kernel code base that doesnt >>> conform to the coding standards), color schemes etc. >>> >>> None of this is rocket science. >>> >>> It is extremely annoying to be a keyboard user and find C-w or C-q hasnt >>> been taken care of in, for example, gnome settings or possibly a pop up >>> from app "X". > > *LMAO* > > Can't even read a menu entry, eh bwah? Why am I not surprised. >>> Anyone who doesnt understand this is , frankly, clueless. > > Who really cares what an insane disruptive arrogant and dimwitted > troll thinks about cluefulness? He's a lying fuckwit, plain and simple. +1 >> And now (anytime soon, I guess) you will bring some examples of applications >> behaving like that. >> >> You are aware that you are (once again) full of shit, >> Hadron Snit Msg-ID Larry? >> >> Applications like that exist, but they are rare. And to top it off, they >> exist on all platforms, and especially on your beloved windows. >> >> About the situation on linux you simply havbe no clue, because you don't run >> any linux, and never have > > There's been a lot of talk on G+ recently about standardization Linux on > a single package manager, single directory layout, a single desktop > environment. > > While this is desirable for certain types of users and developers, it's > never going to happen. From what I've seen, in other groups, it's ususally the windoze users/developers, like Quack, who whine about it. More often than not, after a few replies from GNU/Linux users, they tend to be ignored. > At best, some company will come to the fore and > eventually the way it does things will become a standard of sorts. Red Hat > used to be such a company on the desktop, but it withdrew to the > enterprise market, where it is a pretty standard platform. Ubuntu has > been trying, but getting almost nowhere in the face of Microsoft's > dominance. Google's been stepping up with Android, and, to a lesser > extent, ChromeOS, but again, you'll find a lot of people who don't like > where they're going. > > As for the insane Quark troll whining about desktop variation, > apparently he's never had the experience of going up to someone else's > Windows workstation and finding that they set up things differently from > what he likes. > > At all levels, customization and specialization is *unavoidable*, > especially in open-source land. > > All this talk about standardizing every aspect of Linux is wishful > thinking. Indeed. IMO the vast majority of GNU/Linux users couldn't give a toss. -- Microsoft: "You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips. Micro$oft, the company that makes spreading malware easy. Microsoft exec Ron Markezich was quoted saying that for every $1 companies spend on Microsoft software, they need to spend $6 getting it to work right. -- April 2011 SanFrancisco Chronical -- "We have no intention of shipping another bloated OS and shoving it down the throats of our users." -- Paul Maritz, Microsoft group vice president -- What's bad about Micro$oft: http://www.kmfms.com/whatsbad.html