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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: New scanner install |
| Date | 2012-06-22 08:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CC09DB29.3D1F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
| References | (18 earlier) <CC0622BC.3A2F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <20120620094505.43@usenet.drumscum.be> <fbg8b9-dl6.ln1@alpha-one.wpnetwork.org> <CC074636.3B0B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <E8WdnfuOJr2xF3nSnZ2dnUVZ8l-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
On 6/22/12 7:53 AM, in article
E8WdnfuOJr2xF3nSnZ2dnUVZ8l-dnZ2d@giganews.com, "Kari Laine"
<karitlaine@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 06/20/2012 07:19 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/20/12 2:05 AM, in article fbg8b9-dl6.ln1@alpha-one.wpnetwork.org,
>> "William Poaster"<wp@induh-vidual.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a facsimile from TomB who, on 20/6/2012 08:39, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>>>> On 6/19/12 12:06 PM, in article
>>>>> 20120619210500.37@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
>>>>> <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8<
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The herd publishes membership lists! To deny it is sorta silly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please tell me where I can find those published membership
>>>>>> lists? If I'm on it, I demand to be removed from it immediately!
>>>>>
>>>>> To be more specific than my last answer: look at the "Colatrolls
>>>>> Blog". I also believe Homer sometimes posts similar lists of who is
>>>>> in and out of the herd (though, of course, rule 1 of the herd is
>>>>> never call the herd the herd... so they use different terms). In
>>>>> the last list you were actually listed as the top "herd" member (as
>>>>> noted before, the herd calls themselves the "advocates", though this
>>>>> term is a clear lie):
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 TomB 42
>>>>> 2 JEDIDIAH 27
>>>>> 3 Tattoo Vampire 23
>>>>> 4 Chris Ahlstrom 22
>>>>> 5 Ian Hilliard 20
>>>>> 6 Peter Köhlmann 17
>>>>> 7 chrisv 8
>>>>> Kari Laine 8
>>>>> 9 bbgruff 7
>>>>> Mark S Bilk 7
>>>>> Voodoo Magoo 7
>>>>> White Spirit 7
>>>>> 13 Kaba 6
>>>>> 14 Marti Van Lin 5
>>>>> 15 Lusotec 4
>>>>> Frederick Williams 4
>>>>> 17 Ian Hilliard 3
>>>>> 18 Hardon 2
>>>>> patrick 2
>>>>> MelissA 2
>>>>
>>>> Ah, you interpret automatically generated stats as "membership lists".
>>>> Ah well, whatever you need to enforce your "herd" fantasy, I guess...
>>>>
>>>> I hope you get better soon!
>>>
>>> I don't believe deranged people like Michael Snit Glasser do get better.
>>
>> Rule 1 of the "advocates"... never discuss how you consider yourself the
>> "advocates"... even as your own group publishes lists of some of the people
>> they consider "advocates".
>>
>> Remember, the herd calls itself the "advocates". It is a dishonest term for
>> what they really are - but then they object to a more honest term... and
>> refuse to offer any other.
>>
>> In other words: the insist on dishonesty.
>
> This snooty boy seem not to understand nothing about how humans work.
> After younger years most of us do understand that going alone is not
> going to cut it. If you have a cause in mind and feel strong about it
> like many who come to contact with FOSS do. Either for or against...
>
> Naturally like minded people find hanging places were they can keep in
> touch with other like minded individuals who share at least some of the
> values. People are individuals which this snooty pitiful person hates.
As, then, does Linus Torvalds:
Linux Torvalds:
-----
There are "extremists" in the free software world, but that's
one major reason why I don't call what I do "free software"
any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for
whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
-----
I don't believe a religiously motivated development community
can ever generate as good code except by pure chance.
-----
You see, he also sees groups such as your herd in much the way I do. As far
as the "values" of the herd, these are the *behaviors* I am speaking of:
* They attack outsiders - to the point that the term "troll" is
(essentially) used to mean anyone outside of the herd. If an outsider comes
in and sucks up to the herd they might be able to escape being called this
for a short time... but it is rare. More often than not that are attacked
or accused of being a "sock" of a "troll"... merely because they do not buy
the irrational worldview of the herd. Look at you, TomB, who has already
started targeting Onion Knight in this way. Carroll also targeted Kaba in
such a way, though I did not see the herd glom on to that attack she he let
it go.
* They seek to avoid outside information: look at how often the herd speaks
of who they are kill filtering and encourage each other to also kill filter
those outside of their group. They *want* to be closed off to other ideas.
Just earlier today, TomB, you were encouraged to KF those who are not of the
herd.
* They blame the problems of desktop Linux adoption on one simple (and
incorrect) explanation - the boogieman (generally MS though sometimes others
are included in this made up conspiracy).
* They offer almost completely unconditional "love" to each other - no
matter how extreme the lie they are loath to call each other out. For
example, not a single herd member has called TomB out on his outrageous
behavior of contacting my Usenet provider simply because I quoted Stallman
and noted how repulsive his comments are.
* They share the same irrational beliefs: such as their irrational denial of
Stallman's comments, even though they come directly from his own site, the
aforementioned obsession with the boogieman, the attacks against those who
are not of the herd, the claim that they support choice as they attack those
who do not chose as they do... all irrational. All very cultish.
On and on... these things and more have been described many times in COLA.
> This COLA happens to be one random place in internet and snooty has
> taken it as his employment to disrupt it - hope he gets paid enough.
>
> Most people here don't even know personally. How could they be
> orchestrated to be a herd - try stronger meds snooty.
>
> On the other hand snooty is not totally wrong. there is indeed a
> conspiracy to take over the world with FOSS. And destroy MS and Apple as
> an aftermath.
I focus on making things better. Your herd focuses on destroying and
attacking others. OK.
> They are casualties of the people finding a better way to
> get things done with their computer.
>
> I am sure many people connected to FOSS in a way or other would go
> great lengths to make it happen. Think about those thousands of great
> programmers who wants to benefit fellow man.
>
> I am not much a programmer. I am doing other things and using each year
> quite sum of my personal money to further FOSS and especially Linux. Do
> I wait to gain financially from my investment - no. I make great friends
> and know I am doing something - not just waiting.
--
The indisputable facts about that absurd debate: <http://goo.gl/2337P>
cc being proved wrong about his stats BS: <http://goo.gl/1aYrP>
7 simple questions cc will *never* answer: <http://goo.gl/cNBzu>
cc again pretends to be knowledgeable about things he is clueless about.
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