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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels |
| Date | 2012-06-20 10:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CC0759CC.3B2F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
| References | <3P0Er.295500$7A3.210703@news.usenetserver.com> <CC065EA9.3A67%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <20120620071848.440@usenet.drumscum.be> <CC07404D.3AFF%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <20120620190041.57@usenet.drumscum.be> |
On 6/20/12 10:12 AM, in article 20120620190041.57@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB" <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2012-06-20, the following emerged from the brain of Snit: >> On 6/19/12 10:12 PM, in article 20120620071848.440@usenet.drumscum.be, >> "TomB" <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit: >>> >>> 8< >>> >>>> Merging? There goes choice! >>> >>> Are you serious, or are you just trolling? >> >> My initial comments: >> >> Merging? There goes choice! >> Right? I mean choice is good... why merge projects? >> Poor herd with their choice mantra... so often it comes >> back to bite them. >> >> You snipped in a dishonest way - twisting the meaning of my >> comments. So the answer to your question is *you* are trolling. > > Okay, so your comment was sarcastic, and you don't really believe that > merging projects means choice going away. Well, if you have choice A and choice B (two choices) and then they merge you are left with one choice. Sure, you can still use the older pre-merge material, but the two will not be developed independently. But I do not worship at the alter of "choice" and do not see this as a bad thing. Consolidation can often be a *good* thing (which is not to say it always is). > And you think that is opposed to the ideas of the GNU/Linux advocates in COLA? I will say that since I made an issue of it, I see less worshipping at the alter of "choice"... so the "advocates" (the herd) is learning. > Right? If so, why not state it clearly like that, instead of making a silly > posting like the above? Why not actually try to start a reasonable discussion > on the topic. What you posted is *nothing* to go by. It's just lame trolling > bait. > > Sorry, but that's a fact. If you fail to see that, so be it. I mocked your herd... though, I admit, the mocking was based on a claim that is not often made any more. So I can see that as a reasoned argument against my making my comments. It is not like my noting of the herd where even you, above, speak of the "advocates" - the same group. And yet you and others *in this group you just spoke of* deny this group exists. Question: if you deny the group which calls itself the "advocates" exists (the herd), then why did you refer to them, above? >> And running from the point I made. Oh well... it is not as though >> that is not your habit. Notice how you repeatedly ran from this >> message: >> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/848be5987cc736b3> > > Can you not understand that some people do not spent 24/7 on usenet > like you? That some people actually have a real job to do, a family to > spend time with, hobbies to do, and friends to visit? > > Running from... Yeah, right. Get this, dude: some people actually have > a life to live. That may seem like a odd concept to you, but that's > how it is. Oh give it up. Here you are hounding me for mocking the herd for its worshipping at the alter of "choice" and complaining I was not working toward a good topic of discussion. The post I reference above, I acknowledge, is a much better post for building a good and reasoned discussion. So if you really wanted good and reasoned discussions you would have ignored my comments *here* and not *there*. You can pretend otherwise, but it is very clear you avoided the other post because you knew I was making points you had no good, honest answer to - and I was making points the "advocates" (the herd) do not like. >> You made claims about how the different desktop environments lead to >> desktop Linux serving people so well... and then ran when it was >> noted how even with all of these desktop environments there are >> still a lot of significant lacking features... > > ...and is offering totally different features. Yes, that what > alternatives do. Snit A: Apple is being copied. Snit B: typical OSX > features are not available on GNU/Linux. > > Make up your mind, dude. While Gnome and Unity (and even KDE) do get inspiration from Apple, this does not mean the open source environment is mature enough to copy the items I listed. It is not. Also, just in case you go there: I am not saying all such "inspiration" is wrong... it is the nature of competition and how markets grow. Where to draw the line as to "copying" too much is a hard question to answer. >> and that is ignoring the whole question of apps. > > How many times do I have to tell you the following: those that really > need to use an application that is not available on GNU/Linux, for > whatever reason, should use another OS. Simple as that. Hell, in my > professional life I use Windows XP just for that reason. > > Will you remember my opinion now? And do you see that this cuts off a *lot* of users... many, likely most, users use applications where there needs are better met with apps that do not run on desktop Linux. >> You will speak of the advantages tied to desktop Linux... > > In a usenet group devoted to Linux advocacy. How strange! Hence the second part of my sentence - which you cut off. See how you try to make it look like that which I call "great" is something I am against. It is quite dishonest of you. >> which is great. But you run when the weaknesses of what you speak >> of are pointed out... of how there are trade-offs. >> >> The same is true, above, where I making fun of the lack of ability >> for the herd to see the trade-offs of the choice > > I can see the trade-offs, so I must not be part of this imaginary herd > of yours! You do not consider yourself one of the "advocates", the term the herd uses for itself? >> they claim to worship (even though they often belittle the idea of >> choice... but so be it). -- The indisputable facts about that absurd debate: <http://goo.gl/2337P> cc being proved wrong about his stats BS: <http://goo.gl/1aYrP> 7 simple questions cc will *never* answer: <http://goo.gl/cNBzu> cc again pretends to be knowledgeable about things he is clueless about.
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Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 08:54 -0700
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Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 13:57 -0700
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Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-22 12:21 +0200
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-22 08:03 -0700
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Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-23 14:18 +0200
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Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-06-21 16:30 +0200
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-21 12:04 -0400
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-21 12:31 -0500
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-21 11:08 -0400
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-21 09:24 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-21 09:47 -0400
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 10:43 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2012-06-20 20:35 +0000
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 14:52 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2012-06-20 17:59 +0100
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Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2012-06-20 19:17 +0100
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Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 14:59 -0700
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Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-21 07:48 -0500
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-22 07:31 -0500
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-22 07:59 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 14:55 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2012-06-20 23:21 +0100
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 15:40 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2012-06-21 01:01 +0100
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 18:03 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2012-06-21 03:03 +0100
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 19:32 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2012-06-21 04:22 +0000
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 21:44 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-21 06:11 -0400
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-21 07:32 -0500
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 14:57 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-20 12:17 -0500
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-20 12:34 -0500
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-20 15:27 -0400
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-19 20:36 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-19 20:48 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-19 21:05 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-19 21:18 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-19 21:10 -0700
Re: Introducing the 3.3 and 3.4 Linux kernels Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-19 21:20 -0700
"Mother Nature" is "The Supreme God": eternal, infinite and perfect. @Jeff-Relf.Me - 2012-06-19 23:43 -0700
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