Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject	Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”
Date	2026-05-04 18:58 -0700
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On 2026-05-04 18:24, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> On 5/4/2026 9:14 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2026-05-04 17:54, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>>> Are Mac users really brave enough to try command-line tools?
>>>
>>> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/macos-command-line-utilities-that-are- 
>>> far-more-useful-than-you-think/>
>>>
>>> All of them are available for Linux, and are probably easier to
>>> install and use there than on a Mac.
>>>
>>> Guess where the “real Unix” is to be found ...
>>
>> In what way will they be "easier to install and use" on Linux?
>>
>> 1. Pandoc
>>
>> 'Pandoc is available as a pkg installation package that you can 
>> download from the official GitHub site. Double-click it and follow the 
>> simple instructions.
>>
>> Or, if you have Homebrew installed, you can add Pandoc with the command:'
>>
>> Seems about the same or easier on a macOS.
>>
>> 2 Taskwarrior
>>
>> 'To install taskwarrior, you have to have Homebrew installed and then 
>> add the app with:
>>
>> brew install taskwarrior-tui'
>>
>> So if you've installed Homebrew (which I have and which itself is 
>> available as a .pkg installer), it's precisely the same on Linux and 
>> MacOS.
>>
>> 3. Ollama
>>
>> 'When you install Ollama on MacOS, you can either install the GUI app 
>> and use the command line, or you can simply install the command-line 
>> tool only using Homebrew, like so:'
>>
>> So again, as easy as Linux.
>>
>> 4. ag
>>
>> 'The ag command allows you to search for strings within files. Even 
>> better, ag searches multiple files for the same string. Say you have a 
>> bunch of text files in your Documents directory and you need to know 
>> which of them contain ZDNET. The ag command will not only tell you 
>> which files contain the string, but it'll do it very quickly.'
>>
>> Ummmm... ...macOS already HAS this ability.
>>
>> So Linux loses.
>>
>> '5. yt-dlp
>>
>> 'Do you ever need to download videos from YouTube? If so...'
>>
>> 'Yt-dlp can be installed (along with the required ffmpeg) with 
>> Homebrew, like so:
>>
>> brew install yt-dlp ffmpeg'
>>
>> So once again, after installing homebrew (which is as easy or perhaps 
>> even easier on macOS)...
>>
>> ...it's precisely as easy.
> 
> 
> This is why you're an odd character, you take this competition so 
> seriously, Lawrence is obsessed with promoting open-source and Linux 
> over Apple and MS, and you take the bait, trying to make sure everyone 
> reading Usenet OS-advocacy groups, in 2026, knows that Apple's pretty 
> damn great, too!  Like wow, get over it.  If you love your Macs, great, 
> good for you, but most people would rather not pay $200 for half of a 
> 512 GB SSD.


Hey... ...are you a completely one-note wonder now?

He posted this to comp.sys.MAC.advocacy...

...and it was complete bullshit from start to finish.

So I kind of understand why you need to rush in.

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“5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-05 00:54 +0000
  Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-04 18:14 -0700
    Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 21:24 -0400
      Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-04 18:58 -0700
      SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 17:13 +0200
        Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 11:20 -0400
          Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 17:31 +0200
            Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 12:02 -0400
              Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 18:08 +0200
                Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 09:14 -0700
                Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 18:49 +0200
                Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 13:21 -0400
                Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 11:22 -0700
        Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 13:35 -0400
          Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 19:41 +0200
            Re: SSD prices (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 13:53 -0400
              Re: SSD prices (was Re: �5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts�) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-05 15:36 -0500
                Re: SSD prices (was Re: 5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 18:45 -0400
    Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 17:11 +0200
      Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 08:50 -0700
        Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 17:54 +0200
          Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 09:06 -0700
            Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 18:13 +0200
              Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 09:16 -0700
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 18:59 +0200
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 10:04 -0700
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 19:24 +0200
  Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 08:55 -0400
    Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts” (was: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts”) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 13:54 +0000
      Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 10:24 -0400
        Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 08:51 -0700
        Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts” (was: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts”) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 17:27 +0000
          Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 19:32 +0200
            Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts” (was: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts”) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 17:50 +0000
              Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 19:55 +0200
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts” (was: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts”) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 17:59 +0000
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 20:04 +0200
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts” (was: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts”) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 18:14 +0000
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 20:15 +0200
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-05 22:37 +0000
                Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 16:44 +0200
              Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-05 22:18 +0000
                Re: “5MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” (was: “5MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 22:48 +0000
          Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 14:26 -0400
            Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts” (was: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts”) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 18:46 +0000
      Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts” (was: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts”) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-05 21:45 +0000
        Re: �5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts� (was: �5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts�) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-05 17:02 -0500
        Re: “5MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts” (was: “5MacOS command line tools I swear by over  their GUI counterparts”) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 23:00 +0000
    Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 08:51 -0700
  Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 17:08 +0200
  Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-05 17:37 +0200
    Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-05 21:46 +0000
      Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 16:41 +0200
        Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 12:24 -0400
          Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 18:27 +0200
            Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 12:31 -0400
              Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 18:45 +0200
                Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 12:56 -0400
                Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 19:09 +0200
                Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 14:04 -0400
                Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 21:58 +0200
                Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 18:45 -0400
                Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 14:05 -0400
                Re: Nix (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts”) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 22:00 +0200
  mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-06 10:37 -0700
    Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 19:52 +0200
      Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-06 11:58 -0700
        Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-06 21:57 +0200
          Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-06 13:34 -0700
            Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-07 01:34 +0000
              Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-06 19:31 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-08 13:44 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-08 11:33 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-09 08:59 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-09 06:09 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-10 08:06 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-10 06:25 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-10 12:21 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-10 21:41 -0700
            Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-07 12:08 +0200
              Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-07 07:27 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-08 13:52 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-08 11:38 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-09 09:06 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-09 06:10 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-10 08:16 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-05-10 12:24 +0000
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-10 06:34 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-10 18:33 +0000
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-11 07:33 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-11 10:26 -0700
                Re: Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” MLT <melaniasloosetwat@wicks.org> - 2026-05-12 01:20 +0000
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-11 21:36 -0400
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-11 21:20 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-11 10:26 -0700
                Re: mdfind vs ag (was Re: “5 MacOS command line tools I swear by over their GUI counterparts” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-12 07:20 -0400

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