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Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture?

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On May 3, 2026 at 10:27:04 AM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote
<10t80h8$rfh$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

> Chris wrote:
>>> Any app with the com.apple.security.personal-information.addressbook
>>> entitlement can then read it via the "Contacts.framework".
>> 
>> Incorrect. As the first paragraph in the Dev link you shared above states:
>> 
>> "Your app canʼt access a personʼs Contacts entries until that person grants
>> permission. When your app requests access to contact data, the person can
>> grant either limited or full access, or they can deny the request."
>> 
>> The answer to your OP is: Yes, contacts privacy is possible on iOS and is
>> very easy to achieve. Just deny all requests to access your contacts.
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> It's clear from your response that you do not understand iOS contacts
> privacy, but it's also clear you defend Apple to the death, no matter what,
> using the first absurd excuse that pops into your head (like they do).

What is clear is you use selection bias and ignorance to push a strong bias. I
know little of Contact security on iOS and Android, but looking into it I find
this:

----------------------------------------------------------------------
iOS vs Android contact security, short version:

iOS is generally more secure by default. Contacts are hardware-encrypted,
tightly sandboxed, and Apple enforces stricter app review. Permission access
is clear and consistent across devices, and updates roll out quickly.

Android also uses strong encryption on modern devices, but security varies
more by manufacturer. The permission model is comparable today, but the open
ecosystem (sideloading, third-party stores) increases the risk of apps
harvesting contacts.

Key point: on both platforms, once you grant an app contact access, it can
usually read the whole address book. The difference is how likely it is that a
bad app gets that permission in the first place.

Cloud side: neither platform is fully zero-knowledge by default, though iOS
offers optional end-to-end encryption via Advanced Data Protection.

Bottom line:

* iOS: safer out of the box, more consistent
* Android: can be just as secure, but depends on device and user behavior
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You twist that and whine and pretend iOS is somehow behind. In short: you make
things up and twist. You did this with security in general. iOS is far ahead
of Android there but you pretend otherwise. Pretend. It is a game to you for
your trolling.

...

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-02 00:24 -0600
  Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 15:31 +0000
  Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 16:38 +0000
    Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-02 17:46 -0600
      Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 13:41 +0000
        Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-03 11:27 -0600
          Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 18:01 +0000
            Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? AZP <AZP3181willowDrive@presc0tt.com> - 2026-05-03 21:46 +0000
              Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Anonymous <anonttymtous@localhost.com> - 2026-05-03 18:26 -0400
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-03 22:45 -0600
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 15:18 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Anonymous <anonttymtous@localhost.com> - 2026-05-04 15:45 -0400
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 19:59 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-05 10:06 -0600
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-04 09:06 -0400
              Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-03 22:47 -0600
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 15:20 +0000
              Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-04 09:04 -0400
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-04 11:30 -0600
          Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 21:13 +0000
            Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-03 23:30 -0600
              Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 17:14 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-04 11:53 -0600
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 18:32 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-04 12:12 -0600
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-07 07:00 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-05-07 18:02 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-07 12:55 -0600
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-07 20:07 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-08 13:58 -0600
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 21:34 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-07 20:39 +0000
                Re: Is contacts privacy possible on iOS given the SQLite architecture? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-07 15:02 -0400

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