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Re: FACTORY reset

From Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: FACTORY reset
Date 2025-02-06 20:01 +0000
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 20:23:50 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote :


>> The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be 
>> called As-Delivered-Reset?
> 
> No, why? The phone left the factory this way. Even if there are provider
> specific modifications, they still got applied by Samsung when they
> delivered the device to Telus.

Since I'm hear to learn and to purposefully helpfully teach, I read
(almost) every thread and try to *learn* from that thread.

To that end, I ran a search to see what the answer might be
(since I had no clue by myself).

Here's what I found - which - I do NOT know if this is correct (yet).

Cellular carriers like Telus typically add their carrier-specific software
to a Samsung Galaxy phone the first time you insert their SIM card.

For more details, see these URLs:
 <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS10002910/>
 <https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S22/Explanation-on-what-does-the-carrier-has-to-do-with-phone/td-p/2723401>
 <https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Fold-Flip-Phones/Why-Do-Unlocked-Phones-Receive-Updates-After-Carrier-Branded/td-p/2987389>

Here's a summary but I'm not saying this summary is 100% correct (yet).
That's why I'm posting it here - so that the team can check out details.

1. Samsung's "factory" software: 
When you buy a new Samsung Galaxy phone, it comes with Samsung's base
software. This includes the Android operating system and some basic Samsung
apps.

2. Carrier customization: 
Carriers like Telus want to add their own branding, apps, and settings to
the phone. This might include things like:
a. Pre-installed apps (e.g., their own messaging app, visual voicemail,
etc.)
b. Custom network settings
c. Carrier-specific boot screens or wallpapers

3. SIM card activation: 
When you insert a Telus SIM card into the phone for the first time, the
phone recognizes the SIM card and automatically downloads and installs
Telus's carrier-specific software. This process might involve a restart.

What may change that sequence is the phone's lock status, for example:

Unlocked phones: 
If you have an unlocked Samsung Galaxy phone, it might have software for
multiple carriers pre-loaded. When you insert a Telus SIM card, it will
install the relevant Telus software.

Updates: 
After the initial setup, your phone will likely receive software updates
from Telus, not directly from Samsung. This is because the carrier has
customized the software.

If you want to remove the carrier-specific software, you might be able to
do so through the phone's settings, but some apps might be deeply
integrated into the system.

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