Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Andy Burns Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Discussion: How to set up your mobile devices & home router for privacy/security Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2025 16:15:09 +0000 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <10gko1b$u3l$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <10gn3va$1at2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <10gne33$2jg04$1@dont-email.me> <10gniif.lck.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <10gplji.24o.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net GV1j/7YWKAEaBbvcWY/aigadTdauMta9YvV7b7ARDOZ/C2uRKW Cancel-Lock: sha1:VlftEyljQsGSdUHPcQNE1Ed5qPw= sha256:TbDjcO6adcbtRCO+hwG2xwLlSVMxvv5LmL3NVvkyc/4= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <10gplji.24o.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.android:151607 Frank Slootweg wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> In the UK (and I assume wider within Europe) many ISPs do remote >> provisioning using TR-069 protocol. > > Do you know the extent of that "provisioning", i.e. what they can and > can not do? quite likely change all settings and do firmware updates, reboots > Over time (some 20+ years), my modem/router devices have either been > installed by an on-site technician (probably two times) or by myself, > i.e. they ship a replacement modem/router (sometimes with things like > cables, adapters, outlets, etc.) and I install it (probably three or > more times). I generally start with the ISP's device, then migrate to my own device, but the I've stayed with same ISP since 2004