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Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes

From Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes
Date 2025-07-06 12:50 +0200
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Frank Slootweg, 2025-07-03 21:31:

> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2025-07-03 15:41, Frank Slootweg wrote:
[...]
>>>    So QR codes are multi-purpose, *some* are dangerous, but others
>>> *enhance* security/safety/privacy/<whatever>! :-)
>>
>> And AFAIK, the danger is only when opening an URL without pausing.
> 
>   Indeed. VanguardLH sort of implied that there are QR scanning apps (or
> QR scanning parts of camera, etc. apps), which directly open the URL
> without pausing, but didn't give details, so for the moment that's FUD.

An URL itself is never "dangerous" - because if you assume that, that
*all* links in the web are dangerous as well, if you do not check, where
the link will bring you, before clicking it.

In fact the danger comes from trusting an URL to be a known website,
where you usually enter your account details to get access to your
e-mail account, bank account or similar. That's one of the reasons why
you should never open the website for online banking using a provided
third party QR code since you can never know, if the URL is trustworthy.
And since we have unicode nowadays and IDN domains, it may be possible
to substitude single letters by very similar looking unicode symbols, so
the URL still looks legit, even though it brings you to a fake phishing
website.

So the better approach is to enter the URL of your bank account or
webmail always manually or use a bookmark for that which you have
created on your own before. The problem of phishing on the other hand is
at least partly mitigated by using 2FA, TOTP (time-based one-time
password) or Passkey - in this case the username and password and not
enough, since you still need the second factor, the TOTP or the browser
needs to provide a valid key for the Passkey authentication. And Passkey
won't work at all on fake websites since the authentication with Passkey
is only registered for the original website and won't work on a fake
website with a different domain.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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  Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-01 15:39 +0100
    Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-01 14:57 +0000
      Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-01 16:12 +0100
        Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-01 15:25 +0000
        Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-07-01 18:07 +0100
  Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-01 11:24 -0500
  Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-07-01 20:20 +0200
    Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-07-01 19:55 +0100
      Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-01 21:15 +0200
      Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-01 20:03 -0500
        Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-07-02 07:09 +0100
          Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-02 08:48 +0200
            Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-07-02 08:07 +0100
              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-02 09:00 +0100
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Yusuf Khan <yusuf.khan.nospam@ptcl.net.pk> - 2025-07-02 22:03 +0500
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              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-02 10:05 +0200
              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 12:38 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-02 17:00 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-02 15:31 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-03 15:54 +0200
          Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-02 08:11 +0100
            Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-02 17:08 +0000
            Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-07-03 17:24 +0200
          Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-02 08:24 -0500
            Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-02 17:02 +0200
              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-02 18:40 +0100
              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 20:11 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-03 13:41 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 20:13 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-03 19:31 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 22:35 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-07-06 12:50 +0200
              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-07-03 12:19 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-03 17:22 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-07-03 17:26 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-03 18:17 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-07-06 12:52 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-03 19:28 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-04 17:20 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-07-04 18:30 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-04 19:47 +0100
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-04 23:59 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-04 18:51 +0000
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-05 20:10 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-07-06 12:55 +0200
            Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-02 15:44 +0000
              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-02 17:16 +0000
              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-02 22:18 -0500
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:24 +0200
                Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-03 19:08 +0000
        Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-02 08:05 +0100
          Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-02 10:29 +0200
          Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 12:43 +0200
            Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-02 11:53 +0100
              Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-02 17:49 +0000
          Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-02 17:32 +0000
            Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-03 00:34 +0100
      Re: Recognising (or not) QR codes Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-07-03 17:22 +0200

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