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Re: OT: spam phone calls

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, uk.telecom.mobile, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: OT: spam phone calls
Date 2025-07-02 20:20 +0200
Message-ID <bs9gjlxfaq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <qktsujtev4ocj65klfei2efca3egjg685p@4ax.com> <vsm542.u8k.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <1042vj0$3eojr$1@dont-email.me> <okefjlxhuu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10437hm$3gg42$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2025-07-02 14:09, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 2/07/2025 8:35 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-02 11:53, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 3/04/2025 11:14 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sorry it's taken so long to reply:
>>>>> In comp.mobile.android, on 21 Mar 2025 18:52:57 GMT, Frank Slootweg
>>>>> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a lot like me.   I use my landline 95% of the time.  I 
>>>>>>> only turn
>>>>>>> on the cell when I go out, and not even always then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Hmmm!? Do you have another ('dumb'/'feature') mobile phone, besides
>>>>>> your smartphone?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, just one smartphone.
>>>>>
>>>>>>   If not, then how do you 'turn on' the smartphone when you go out?
>>>>>> Turning it on, implies it's turned off [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and turning on ('booting') a smartphone takes quite some time and 
>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not much effort, just push the power button and hold it for 3 or 4
>>>>> seconds.  I used to hold it until it vibrated, 5 or 6 seconds but 
>>>>> that's
>>>>> not required.   By the time I get to the car it's fully on. No one is
>>>>> calling me anyhow so it if I have no phone for a minute or two, it
>>>>> doesnt' matter.
>>>>
>>>>    So you don't have a SIM-lock PIN, nor a screen-lock PIN (or
>>>> biometrics)?
>>>>
>>>>    If so, I hope you don't have any important stuff on your phone,
>>>> because if you lose it or it gets stoelen, the finder/thief has all 
>>>> your
>>>> stuff, access to your account(s), etc..
>>>
>>> I volunteer a few hours a week at the local Salvation Army Thrift 
>>> Shop .... and the number of times I see people flash their mobile 
>>> phones at the Credit Card machine staggers me.
>>>
>>> How many times have people lost their 'phones .... so there goes all 
>>> their Banking information .... and you could just about guarantee 
>>> that they haven't got all their precious Family Photos saved 
>>> somewhere else either!!
>>>
>>> Crazy!!
>>
>> It is actually safer than flashing a real credit card, if you follow 
>> the recommended procedures.
>>
> Oh!!

Think about it. If they steal your card, they have all the data, except 
the pin. They can use to pay with NFC as long as the amount is 
relatively "small". However, with a phone they need a pin or pattern or 
fingerprint or face to access and use the cards stored there.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-02 19:53 +1000
  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 12:35 +0200
    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-02 22:09 +1000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 20:20 +0200
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 19:28 +1000
          Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-07-03 12:39 +0100
  Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-02 14:40 +0000
  Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-03 09:05 +0100
    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:33 +0200
      Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-03 12:18 +0100
        Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 13:32 +0200
          Re: OT: spam phone calls NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-03 22:07 +0100
            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 03:17 +0200
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:03 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-05 21:14 +0000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:21 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-07-06 13:21 +0000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:03 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-06 18:56 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-06 19:49 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2025-07-06 19:35 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls James Heaton <heatonandmoore@gmail.com> - 2025-07-06 19:57 +0100
              Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:18 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:04 +0000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-07 19:03 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-07 16:38 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-07 17:20 +0100
                OT: floppies (was: Re: OT: spam phone calls) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-07 17:43 +0100
        Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-07-03 16:26 +0100
          Tap to pay [Was: Re: OT: spam phone calls] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 20:04 +0200
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-04 19:35 +1000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 11:46 +0200
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-07-04 11:12 +0000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 13:24 +0200
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-05 01:32 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-05 20:15 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:55 +0200
    Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:20 +0100
      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 12:43 +0200
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 23:00 +1000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 20:50 +1000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-03 19:29 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-03 20:55 +0100
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:13 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 22:40 +0200
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:18 +0000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-03 22:13 +0100

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