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Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore
Date 2025-12-06 20:06 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <10h25ta.obo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
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Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> > Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> > > Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > On 2025-12-05 16:44, croy wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > assuming that a security hole was plugged, and if that is
> > > > > correct, I like it.
> > > > I fail to see how this could have plugged any security hole!
> > > > Before and now, in both cases you have to have possession of the
> > > > phone and the matching fingerprint/PIN/ugly mug/whatever to log
> > > > into it, so the new rigmarole is not discernibly more secure
> > > > than the old, it's just a ritual bloody nuisance.
> > > > 
> > > Exactly! If someone has your phone in their hands then all files are
> > > accessible, the only possible protection is encryption.
> > 
> >   If the phone is (screen) locked, you can't do anything, that's the
> > whole point of locking a phone.
> 
> If it's in my hands I can simply take it apart and access the memory.

  That is *theoretically* possible, but in practice you need the
(hardware) tools to either read the memory or remove it (unsoldering?)
and put it in a specialized device to read it. No simple task at all.

> It's only the same as accessing a disk drive on an 'ordinary' computer.

  No way! A disk in a computer and 'flash' memory soldered in a phone
are completely different!

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Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-05 08:33 +0100
  Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 11:14 +0100
    Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-05 11:30 +0100
      Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 11:37 +0100
        Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-05 12:55 +0100
          Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> - 2025-12-05 06:38 -0700
            Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-05 15:26 +0100
  Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-05 13:13 +0000
    Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-05 15:35 +0100
      Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-05 19:15 +0100
        Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-06 10:30 +0100
          Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2025-12-06 11:58 +0100
            Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-06 14:46 +0100
              Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-06 15:27 +0100
              Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-06 16:47 +0000
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-06 20:41 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-06 20:20 +0000
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 21:24 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-08 20:31 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:12 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:35 +0000
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 00:05 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> - 2025-12-09 19:22 -0700
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-06 21:18 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-12-07 09:54 +0000
          Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-06 14:49 +0100
            Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-06 15:26 +0100
              Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-06 16:17 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-06 20:43 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-06 21:21 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-06 20:52 +0000
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-07 14:49 +0100
  Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-12-05 08:44 -0800
    Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-12-05 17:40 +0000
      Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-12-05 17:52 +0000
        Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-06 16:49 +0000
          Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-12-06 17:43 +0000
            Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-12-06 18:01 +0000
              Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-12-06 18:50 +0000
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-12-06 19:28 +0000
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-06 20:14 +0000
            Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-06 20:06 +0000
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          Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-12-08 01:25 +0000
            Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:53 +0100
            Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 08:20 +0000
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    Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-12-06 14:07 +0000
  Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2025-12-05 11:42 -0800
    Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> - 2025-12-05 16:01 -0700
    Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-06 10:32 +0100
      Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> - 2025-12-07 19:44 -0700
        Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-10 09:15 +0100
          Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> - 2025-12-10 14:26 -0700
            Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-11 09:28 +0100
              Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-12-11 15:46 +0000
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-11 20:37 +0100
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-12-11 19:48 +0000
              Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-11 16:17 +0000
                Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-12-11 20:40 +0100
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