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Re: What's the actual *advantage* of not having an sd slot?

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 17:16:40 +0200, R.Wieser wrote :


>>  Not only do we not accept it, but his 'logic' is false, because -
>> as I wrote before and he as usual dishonestly, 'conveniently'
>> silently snipped/ignored - his premise is *impossible*.
>>
>>  "All else being equal" can and does not exist.
> 
> And as I told you a while back, that was an hypothetical case, to focus your 
> attention on the existance of sd-card slots.
> 
> You want to point fingers at Arlen for "'conveniently' silently 
> snipped/ignored" ?  Take a look in the mirror.  :-(
> 
>> If he thinks it can/does, he only has to give one example.
>> I/we do not have to prove our position,
> 
> Wrong.  As *you* claimed that its impossible, its also upto *you* to prove 
> it.  Just as Arlen needs to do it for his own claims.
> 
>> because one can not prove a negative.
> 
> True.  But as you manouvred yourself in that corner its noones problem but 
> yours.

I will agree with anyone who states a logically sensible viewpoint, and 
disagree with anyone whose viewpoint is absurd, where Rudy is logical here.

When they make a billion phones, they don't customize it for Carlos or 
Frank or Arno by removing the slot - you just don't use that functionality.

You don't have to use the camera either but a phone without a camera, all 
else being equal, can't do what a phone with the camera can do. Period.

I've said many times what an sd card enables, but what it enables that is 
the most fantastic in my opinion, is I can add storage any time I want to.

That storage can be added years after I purchased the phone, as I need it.
Instead of paying an arm & a leg for future-proofing my phone at the start.

The presence of the sd slot, were I to use it, future proofs the phone in 
terms of me not having to buy, ahead of time, storage that I 'may' need.

I also use the sd card to copy to other people's phones without the 
Internet, but that's a corner case. And I use it to copy to a PC (but USB 
works as well or better). I also use it to populate a new phone.

Being able to fully populate a new phone perfectly (same homescreen, exact 
same apps, same everything, is something I only do once a year or so tho).

The disadvantage of the sd slot is essentially zero since nobody can show 
that the cost savings are passed on to the consumer, nor that the IP rating 
suffers, so there don't seem to be any disadvantages in the real world.

However as Arno (& perhaps others) stated, that internal storage over 64GB 
that people pay an arm & a leg for has advantages at huge cost.
a. Expensive internal storage is faster 
b. Expensive internal storage is more reliable 

But it's damn expensive compared to sd storage where the internal storage 
isn't portable to other phones, which I happen to do all the time but I do 
agree very few people fully populate a second phone without the computer.

I do it all the time - but I do a lot of things nobody else here can do.

What do most people do when repopulating a phone? Use the cloud? The net?
Heh heh heh... they do exactly what marketing tells them to do. Don't they.

I don't. I can think for myself. Outside of what marketing wants me to do.
Hence, I use the sd card to fully populate any number of phones I want to.

And that has huge advantages in privacy and reproducibility (e.g., I get 
the exact same last-known-good-versions of PulseSMS as just one example).

There is one huge disadvantage to sd card storage (which is the same though 
as to internal storage) which is if a truck runs over the phone, you lose.

But, it's the same in both cases - so in both cases, you'll need a backup.

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