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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Comprehensive current zero-day platform comparisons? |
| Date | 2025-06-13 06:00 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <102gsrn$3c813$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On Fri, 6/13/2025 3:31 AM, Chris wrote: > Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: >> >> >> I'm both a scientist & and engineer > > Lol. There's plenty of evidence demonstrating you're no scientist. > > You have a single world view and will only look for "facts" (sic) which > only support that position. You also have no interest in doing your own > analyses. Your only research tool is google. > > Almost everything you state is an untestable assertion as you don't show > your workings -links to discussion threads are not methods- to allow peer > review. Whenever people do challenge your assertions you make ad hominem > attacks rather than use the corrections to improve your hypothesis. > The first problem, is the hypothesis is wrong. No conclusions can be reached, by counting the CVE. It's because the CVE step is an intermediate one. It does not measure the value of the ecosystem to the users. It's how many users are tipped over or exploited that counts. And no data for that, is available. Merely marketing summaries, intended to sell AV kits. Yards and yards of FUD. The Software Quality Institute used to hand out ratings to companies, for their defects per KLOC. What's amazing, is the defect rate between a "good" company and a "bad" company is only a factor of three. I was shocked! It means there is shit everywhere, and there is basically nothing you can do about it. Since the defectivity is proportional to KLOC (defects per thousand lines of code), about all you can do in an OS, is cut down the lines of source, the number of SVCHOST, the unnecessary subsystems, and so on. No OS today, takes such an approach seriously, because such an OS would be "disadvantaged in the marketplace". Nobody would buy it because of the spartan nature of the product. CVEs are proportional to the amount of money spent to generate them. Offer a reward for bugs ? Get more CVE. What's that ? The CVE only happen when a Black Hat is in the room ? Nature of the game. Not all CVEs are worth the paper they are printed on. Even the ratings are (somewhat) suspect, as to whether something is an "8" or a "10". It's just not a productive use of anyones time, to be using a CVE for this purpose. A CVE is a communications tool, for communication between professionals. Let's take as an example, the Temple OS. How many CVEs have been filed for the Temple OS ? Why, zero. Ipsofacto, the OS is perfection! It must be better than all of the others! Of course, no one is being paid to find bugs in it. Paul
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