Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.editors Subject: Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 02:21:36 +0100 Lines: 74 Message-ID: <0ai57lxtdg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <2suv6lxdht.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <6ol17lxpiu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <6qa47lxamm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net eumeJ9O8t5j6Ag5JzCVEvA9TsBfDUGEbV/4YCiQdvP2So6frpw X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:b1XDxHQ8MTeu+weGDJJ69cmPRdo= sha256:SqLdqHWRhhZx8bl4xwWcA6USt7e5mziD1P8iam5Y7Uc= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.android:146619 alt.comp.os.windows-10:181913 comp.editors:106573 On 2025-02-03 00:42, Marion wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 15:07:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote : ... >> I use map apps that view the map, not edit them. > > Well, that's understandable, but even if you never *edit* the maps, you > still have to store offline maps *somewhere*, where, they're never small. I don't need to store the entire map of the USA, or the entire Europe either. Just Spain, Ontario, and Quebec, to be precise. Actually, I accidentally downloaded to my phone a lot of podcasts and they use more gigabytes than my maps. ... >>> Do you copy them from the sd storage to main storage just to edit them? >>> Why? >> >> Because the wear in flash cards is limited, and using an editor in >> such media stresses them. > > Hmm... I get what you are saying, but I've never worried about the wear of > sdcards. I'm sure it happens. But how much does it happen?  I don't know. > > > Anything I don't know, I look up, so here's what I found just now. >  Factors influencing SD card wear: >  a. Frequency of writes >  b. Amount of data written  c. Quality of the card >  d. Wear leveling >  e. Environmental factors (e.g., temperature & physical damage) Flash media, ie, usb sticks or storage cards, do not have wear levelling. Ok, maybe some units out there do, but mere mortals don't have them. SSDs do. I have seen USB sticks die "soon" because they were used frequently for office use, I mean, normal word or excel files that were edited directly in there. I don't know how many writes you can do, but it is limited and it is reachable. I also have seem storage cards used on tiny computer (think a Pi) die. Also heard of some Tesla car failing because the internal computer storage died of so much use, simply because of frequent log writing. It does happen. The internal media of phones is much more resilient than the plugable cards, by the way. Unless you happen to have crap phones and excellent cards. > > That having been said, this guesstimates about a 10-year life for sdcards: > > > Interestingly, one recommendation that article above makes is: >  f. Avoid filling it to capacity That's well known, but it is only true if the media has wear levelling. > > Interesting value added, is it not? > > Thanks for bringing up the type of editors being important, as I learned a > lot simply by responding to your valid concerns. Much appreciated! > Welcome. -- Cheers, Carlos.