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Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search

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Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> writes:
> 
>> On 21-Jan-25 5:10 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
>>>   by Thom Holwerda 2025-01-18
>>>   - 
>>> https://www.osnews.com/story/141570/google-begins-requiring-javascript-for-google-search/ 
>>> " Google says it has begun requiring users to turn on JavaScript, 
>>>   the widely used programming language to make web pages 
>>>   interactive, in order to use Google Search.  In an email to 
>>>   TechCrunch, a company spokesperson claimed that the change is 
>>>   intended to "better protect" Google Search against malicious 
>>>   activity, such as bots and spam, and to improve the overall 
>>>   Google Search experience for users.
> 
> [...]
> 
>> How is this going to '"better protect" Google Search against 
>> malicious activity, such as bots and spam'?
> 
> I believe the idea is that if the robot doesn't speak Javascript, 
> it's an easy denial by the web server.  And making bots speak 
> Javascript is one step up.  And with Javascript they can likely 
> monitor things like mouse movement to detect whether the user is a 
> human or a robot.
> 
> I'm not approving the idea; just sharing what I think they might have 
> in mind when they say Javascript will help them fend off robots.

Yes, this is probably the 'excuse' they would offer up if pressed (for 
bots -- for SPAM, no idea).

But the part they forget is that the reason they have such a 'bots' 
problem is the revenue the bot authors can obtain by gaming google 
search.  All requiring JS will do is result in those same scammers 
"building a better bot" -- i.e., the revenue stream is enough they will 
put in the effort to make their bots speak JS, and google will be back 
where they started.

The *real* reason, which they will likely never admit to, is likely 
that the advertising overlords in control of what is left of the old 
"don't be evil" google figured out they can gain more "data" on users 
by requiring JS than not, and so the change is solely to hoover up more 
data and gain more ad dollars for the mothership.

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[LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-21 07:10 +1000
  Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-21 10:23 +0100
  Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2025-01-21 20:18 +0800
    Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-01-21 12:56 +0000
      Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-21 19:18 +0100
    Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-01-21 10:33 -0300
      Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-21 18:12 +0000
      Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-22 06:56 +1000
        Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.netREMOVE.invalid> - 2025-01-23 19:33 +0000
          Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2025-01-24 13:30 +0800
            Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-01-27 20:56 +0000
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      Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-01-29 19:00 +0000
        Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-29 19:33 +0000
          Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-01-29 20:04 +0000
            Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-01-29 22:15 +0000
              Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 10:50 +0100
              Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.netREMOVE.invalid> - 2025-01-30 18:47 +0000
            Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 00:53 +0000
              Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-01-30 01:53 +0042
                Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 03:38 +0000
                Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-01-30 04:43 +0042
        Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-24 05:38 +0000
  Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-01-21 15:30 +0000
    Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-01-21 16:26 +0000
    Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-21 19:21 +0100
  Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-21 19:54 +0000
    Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-22 06:47 +1000
      Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-01-21 22:49 +0042
        Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-01-22 13:04 +1000
          Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-01-22 12:58 +0042
          Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-01-25 15:15 +0000
  Re: [LINK] Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2025-01-21 20:57 +0000

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