Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.misc,sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 00:25:14 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <05c80j5fh7u9q2hni78q9cf4gk9i88iehp@4ax.com> <4ikg0jtb236s7l70h1s3ntlok4nc23st58@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 13:25:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="03bb9d4ea9cbd0a70fcbd0a12288f6b5"; logging-data="1913579"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+IKNZ/hqs3uqZLEbpDd0LwHkT5rQ/NNt4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eyoI3N1aSDz/yOnEYTtwrz+670M= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Xref: csiph.com alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:2760890 comp.misc:24315 sci.electronics.design:721307 On 31/03/2024 11:36 pm, Governor Swill wrote: > On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 16:52:59 +1100, Bill Sloman wrote: > >> On 31/03/2024 12:15 pm, John Larkin wrote: >>> On 31 Mar 2024 01:06:13 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: >>> >>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>> Hundreds of years ago, 80% of the world population was >>>>> hunter-gatherers or farmers, and both lived on the edge of starvation. >>>>> Now the US has about 2% farmers and there's tons of cheap food. Enough >>>>> to export or turn into auto fuel. >>>>> >>>>> Malthusian starvation and the idiotic "Population Bomb" didn't happen. >>>> >>>> No, but the other side of the coin is global warming, which at the core >>>> is really just a matter of overpopulation. >>>> --scott >>> >>> CO2 and warming are both good, >> >> They aren't, but John Larkin is a gullible sucker for climate change >> denial propaganda. >> >>> and the population will most likely >>> peak and slowly decline. >> >> That's the prediction. >> >>> The catastrophists are always wrong. >> >> They have been so far. A proper catastrophe gets rid of both the >> catastrophists and the people who are sceptical of their predictions, so >> there isn't anybody around to mention that a catastrophist finally got >> it right. > > But if their warnings are taken seriously and acted upon? > > The global cooling climate change proponents of the nineteen sixties and seventies saw > government act to remove from their exhausts those chemicals and particulates that caused > planetary cooling. There were no global cooling climate change proponents. The campaign to put SO2 scrubbers in power station smoke stacks was aimed at eliminating acid rain. which was killing conifer forests. That the SO2 was also creating droplets of sulphuric acid in the stratosphere which scatted some sunlight, causing a bit of global cooling wasn't appreciated at the time. Dealing with the ozone hole was similarly climate neutral. > The by product has been CO2 which causes warming. Wrong. CO2 does cause warming, but nothing done to deal with acid rain or the ozone hole has introduced any extra CO2 into the atmosphere. Stopping acid rain let conifer forests take a bit more CO2 out. > Every solution brings with it a new problem. Not in this particular case. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney