Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bernard Peek Newsgroups: comp.misc,uk.d-i-y Subject: Re: Laptop replacement Followup-To: uk.d-i-y Date: 27 Mar 2025 16:38:14 GMT Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net WGsEhRMjYy7V83hAjGrtlgdAQDpBh5BYvLbc1wjDXkJ+Zoopfe Cancel-Lock: sha1:DH4SjsgXOpKSh2qlTQ6NA8kKTCQ= sha256:d06wfhfwxTuQQSgtjXsBUjQknHMxiYpE6F0OnCQ9L88= User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:27054 uk.d-i-y:1220704 ["Followup-To:" header set to uk.d-i-y.] On 2025-03-27, Jeff Gaines wrote: > On 27/03/2025 in message Lawrence > D'Oliveiro wrote: > >>On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 19:02:39 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>>Well I have had pretty good results for MY needs with HP laptops BUT >>>anything to run Windows 11 seems very expensive. Like £400 >>> >>>Whereas a Windows ten capable refurbished is under £100 >> >>Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to obsolete, >>unsupported software? > > I use Windows 8.1 on all my machines that will run it because it allows me > to download updates and install them when convenient to me. Why this > facility doesn't exit on Win 10 goodness knows. > > I see you've been suckered by MSFT marketing bullshit :-) > Yes and no. As an IT Manager I described myself as custodian of the corporate paranoia. One of the options I had was to check that any machine connected had the right OS and had all of the patches I considered essential. If I had been managing financial or other critical data the patches might have been added to the critical list within a few days of release. It takes about three days for miscreants to download a patch and reverse-engineer an exploit. So exploits by skript-kiddies are most likely three days after a patch. They get progressively less likely after that. -- Bernard Peek bap@shrdlu.com Wigan