Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...

From	D <nospam@example.net>
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Subject	Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...
Date	2024-08-30 22:53 +0200
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, Anton Shepelev wrote:

> Rich to yeti:
>
>>> News readers had decades of evolution more than New
>>> Fedistan clients.
>>
>> This is very true, and I'd bet if we could time travel
>> back to the way distant past, that many of the very useful
>> features we take for granted in Usenet clients today would
>> not be present in those early clients.  The features got
>> added when the irritation level of whatever caused the add
>> exceeded the effort of writing the code for the additional
>> feature.
>>
>> Mastadon clients are in their 'very young child' age range
>> of evolution.  Maybe in 30 years (assuming Mastadon's
>> still a thing in 30 years) they will have learned from
>> Usenet and added the useful Usenet client features.
>
> I fear it will never come to pass, because modern platforms
> are philosphically, ideologically, and aesthetically
> incompatible with Usenet. The are designed to conform to
> modern UX trends that promote a /negative entry threshold/,
> an entry dip if you will, and substitute tawdriness for
> elegance.
>

Well, that's where small, individual open source projects fill an 
important niche. The big markets do push things into the same directions, 
but there's plenty of room for creative, individual unique projects.

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If you were to design a netnews protocol today... George Musk <grgmusk@skiff.com> - 2024-08-07 14:32 +0000
  Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2024-08-07 18:03 +0200
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-08-28 16:41 +0300
      Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2024-08-28 17:04 +0200
  Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-08-07 17:23 +0100
  Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-08 08:49 +1000
  Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 01:29 +0000
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-08-07 21:52 -0500
      Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 07:32 +0000
        Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-08-08 13:41 +0100
          Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 23:54 +0000
        Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-08-14 22:05 -0500
          Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-15 07:20 +0000
            Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-08-15 13:37 +0300
              Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-15 16:30 +0100
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-08-15 18:48 +0300
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] D <remailer@domain.invalid> - 2024-08-15 13:15 -0400
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-15 23:30 +0200
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-08-15 23:03 +0100
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-16 09:41 +0200
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-15 23:35 +0042
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-16 09:44 +0200
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-27 19:51 -0300
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-28 10:45 +0200
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-27 19:49 -0300
                Re: Usenet as social media [was:Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-09-04 11:40 +0000
          Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... steveo@panix.com (Steven M. O'Neill) - 2024-08-15 14:11 +0000
            Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-16 02:07 +0000
              Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-17 11:18 -0700
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-17 21:45 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-17 13:04 -0700
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-17 20:31 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-17 15:41 -0700
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-17 15:35 -0700
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-18 11:04 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-18 08:25 -0700
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-21 10:50 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-21 16:08 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-18 17:11 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-18 10:37 -0700
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-19 00:02 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-20 22:07 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-21 10:52 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-18 10:18 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-19 00:00 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-27 19:53 -0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-27 19:51 -0700
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-28 21:34 -0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-29 01:42 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-29 10:21 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-29 13:57 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-29 16:56 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-29 17:07 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-08-30 11:58 +0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-30 22:53 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-30 18:51 -0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-30 22:50 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-29 10:18 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-29 09:22 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-05 01:28 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-09-05 15:10 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-30 18:53 -0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-09-01 22:47 -0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-09-02 06:56 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-08-29 13:30 +0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-30 18:55 -0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-08-28 00:53 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-28 01:59 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-08-28 03:07 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-28 03:08 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-28 17:50 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-08-28 19:41 +0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-08-28 18:52 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-28 19:34 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-08-28 19:58 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-28 21:16 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-08-28 17:55 -0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-08-28 22:04 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-28 22:40 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-08-29 13:12 +0300
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-31 23:47 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-05 01:34 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-28 10:46 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-28 15:09 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-08-28 18:11 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-08-28 19:58 +0100
      Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-08-08 09:39 +0000
        Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-08-08 14:16 +0100
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-08-08 04:31 +0100
  Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-09 08:23 +0100
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-09 17:34 +0100
      Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-09 19:13 +0100
        Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-10 00:25 +0000
          Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-10 09:14 +0100
            Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-10 08:17 +0000
            Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-10 15:05 +0000
              Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-08-10 16:51 +0000
              Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-10 23:41 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2024-08-10 22:10 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... William Stickers <bill.stickers@innocent.com> - 2024-08-12 10:23 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-08-12 11:21 +0100
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... William Stickers <bill.stickers@innocent.com> - 2024-08-12 21:41 +0100
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 22:25 +0200
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 22:27 +0200
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-09 21:38 +0042
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-13 22:34 -0300
      Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-14 03:44 +0000
        Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-14 13:33 -0300
          Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-15 08:16 +1000
            Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-08-15 19:50 +0300
              Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-16 08:30 +1000
      Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-14 18:36 +0100
  Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2024-08-17 16:49 +0200
    Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-17 21:43 +0200
      Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2024-08-19 13:07 +0200
        Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-19 19:36 +0200
          Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-19 18:35 +0042
            Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-19 22:40 +0200
              Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-19 22:20 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-20 10:01 +0200
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-08-20 17:07 +0042
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-20 20:00 +0200
              Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-20 22:10 +0000
                Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-21 07:28 +0000

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