Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Salvador Mirzo Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: OT: personal stories Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2025 20:49:19 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <87zfhwh05c.fsf@example.com> References: <67b21894$14$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <87a5ale0vg.fsf@example.com> <0310a638-3153-f886-5206-9bc8453c1f8e@example.net> <8734g9modu.fsf@example.com> <25c6c643-4e94-09d9-48e6-e9cf123e7cd4@example.net> <87seo8fgx8.fsf@example.com> <87eczscb6w.fsf@example.com> <87plj82ico.fsf@example.com> <1a64642e-3538-1363-1321-6760e5a417b9@example.net> <87v7szw9yv.fsf@example.com> <3cd7f616-d9a1-3dbb-2c9a-70001117f6af@example.net> <87seo2u9fk.fsf@example.com> <87zfiaqdfj.fsf_-_@example.com> <06b4cd76-f0e4-ccc7-b7b9-18d4f701f8fd@example.net> <87plj3hi7v.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:49:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="25508ec625a4e8d02a778a073462a267"; logging-data="3981195"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+JprwCpj7n1+6PgA/boUu8kJuwMJM5ei8=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:sxiza3RyDXN6jIkNCTOjMYxYWs4= sha1:ZX8CAwGdsnbzcRS82n/1ud1QtDQ= Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:26827 D writes: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote: > >>> Many good hearted leftists are leftists because they cannot see or >>> do not think >>> about second order, or third order, or N order effects. They get stuck at the >>> immediate problem and do not think of how the consequences of their >>> immediate, >>> knee jerk, solution will cause more pain down the line. This is sad. =( >> >> Quite right. And there is the folly of rewarding A while hoping for B. >> >> Kerr, Steven. ``On the folly of rewarding A, while hoping for B.'' >> Academy of Management journal 18.4 (1975): 769-783. > > True! > >>> Then of course you have evil leftists who are fully aware of this, and >>> are leftists due to political power gains. >> >> And there's the post-modernist movement, with their sheer nonsense and >> confusion, that finds good reception in such groups---probably more so >> than in others. > > It will destroy itself in time. Since they have abandoned objective > truth, and built their ethos on being the most vulnerable group, they > will go down in flames and in fighting, since nothing can be resolved > without any kind of objective truth to ground discussions. Sadly it > takes time. It takes time. Intelligence *always* prevails, directly or indirectly.