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Re: Splitting The Web

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immibis <news@immibis.com> writes:

> On 12/24/23 14:19, IanJ wrote:
>
>> Personally I don't see that it is possible to split the web, the whole
>> idea behind it is that you can seemlessly navigate between sites, so even
>> with the best efforts and intentions, you don't really know what kind of
>> site that next link click will take you to.
> 
> Most commercial websites - by which I mean websites whose commerce *is* 
> the website, not just websites for companies - already block themselves 
> off from the free web, trying to make you pay to get in.

My personal gripe is that while web sites providing useful information
tend to have readable, well-connected text, those that actually want
to sell you something -- anything from books to industrial compressors
-- are burdened with arcane javascript and connective and/or
interavtive complexity that often defeats my browser.

In particular, I'm totally pissed off with Coles/Indigo/Chapters.
After their major system crash of a some months ago, they will no
longer let you come to a store in person and order a book.  A store
clerk will, if prodded, look a book up on their computer a sell you a
cash-card/receipt the ID number of which you an the use to pay for
your book that you must then order on line.  They assure you that you
can opt to have the book delivered to your local store for pick-up if
you like.

To add insult to this stupidity, their on-line system is clever
enough to deduce you location from your IP address and offer stores in
your area as delivery destinations.  Only their cleverness is borken;
it deduces that because the corporate address of my ISP is in
Montreal, they will only offer to deliver to their stores in the
Montreal area.  I happen to be ca. 1,000 miles east of Montreal but
their web site seems to not offer any way for me to tell them that.

Looks to me as if they've signed a death warrant for their bricks &
mortar stores, working from the notion that spending $BIGNUM on
re-implementing their crashed in-store network and ordering system is
way too much to service people such as I who read a lot, actually buy
hard-cover books and prefer the process of buying from humans in a
real, non-virtual place.

> And people who use the free web probably don't get much value from them, 
> either.
> 
> It won't be a complete split, but a network with two clusters.


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Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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  Re: Splitting The Web immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2023-12-23 11:47 +0100
    Re: Splitting The Web cr0c0d1le <nospam@nospam.org> - 2023-12-23 08:18 -0500
      Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2023-12-23 14:33 +0100
        Re: Splitting The Web Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-12-24 01:30 +0300
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                Re: Splitting The Web Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-01-03 16:56 +0000
                Re: Splitting The Web immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-01-06 21:25 +0100
                Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-01-03 23:03 +0100
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          Re: Splitting The Web cr0c0d1le <cr0c0d1le@cogeco.ca> - 2023-12-27 22:00 -0500
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