Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Julieta Shem Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Mozilla's new vision Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2024 16:15:26 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <87ttnumcli.fsf@yaxenu.org> References: <87le9bto0k.fsf@yaxenu.org> <87y1dbays6.fsf@tilde.institute> <87plynrqj4.fsf@yaxenu.org> <871qb0pedu.fsf@yaxenu.org> <87h6jvyn7t.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="75a951e1f41ca440471c166e12474bef"; logging-data="3484969"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18zWmsNIkXTAcWDKg7wbXAOA8GoHaK2kdI=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:waUzR9fJZ4E8Q54s5aagV9nD8HY= sha1:5oUYy/hxGBXqUFnf+dFmOplXJnU= Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:23808 Mike Spencer writes: > Julieta Shem writes: > >> For instance, learning is very expensive. Each new program requires you >> to even learn how to type. If you give lay users the ability to find >> their favorite editor wherever they go, they will begin to care about >> that too --- not just programmers. > > The slogan, "Life-long learning" was supposed to be about learning > *new* stuff after you left school, as you grew older, not about > learning the same stuff over and over again. > > I'm almost 82 and a long-time devotee of life-long learning. But for > the last decade or two, as the net gradually became a tool of commerce > and finance, I have to espend effort to avoid having to learn the same > stuff over and over again. Just an example: I'm still using the same > version of Emacs I compiled in 1999 for my first Linux box. With > every upgrade of my Linux system, I get a new Emacs with which I > struggle for a few hours before reverting to the old version. ``A man after my own heart.'' I'm roughly half your age, but I noticed that very quickly too --- unless we protect ourselves, we'll spend our entire lives relearning the same things. I did choose the GNU EMACS are my life-long editor, but I also had to freeze it in my own package. This is also why I chose Windows as a desktop, even though I use it as a POSIX syste. (I have a ZIP package of the tools I need and all it takes for me to recover from a crash is to download it and unpackage it. Life is more difficult on UNIX systems because libraries evolve very quickly without sufficient backward compatibility, an insane objective given the sheer number of different libraries out there.)