Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Salvador Mirzo Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: more on broken schools Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 08:55:04 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <87cyf3eh5z.fsf@example.com> References: <67b21894$14$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <87ikp03y4r.fsf@example.com> <87ldtsjk7l.fsf_-_@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 12:55:05 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="01e89bac3285d800d024642987689691"; logging-data="3264371"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mZ7/frsDlUoiMVwTV8A/9uyghqSF1o4s=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:8s1jjWGyovY9q4fsB94RX5nj86A= sha1:1hw7E7kMEU5VV3IpHMLBgzd3Gw0= Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:26755 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes: > Salvador Mirzo wrote: >>kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes: >> >>> We even got a guy with a PhD in CS from a university that I had previously >>> thought reputable who had never used a command line and who just could >>> not understand how make works in spite of the O'Reilly book. >> >>What O'Reilly book? Are you saying the PhD was an O'Reilly-published >>author? That would be literally incredible. > > No, I mean that when he didn't know what make was, we handed him the > O'Reilly book about make. Because that's how you learn things that > you don't know in the Unix world. It did not seem to help. > He continued trying to write sequential build scripts using make. Oh, I perfectly understand now. (Thanks.) I read ``make'' as a verb in that phrase. Yeah, it makes sense that someone with no make experience (at all) could misuse it. He likely didn't have any experience even with competitors such as gradle or whatever. Pretty sad story: as I discovered flaws in my education, I felt hurt---people wasted my time, made a fool out of me, hurt me emotionally and so on; not as a conspiracy against me, but as a matter of course. I feel lucky to have noticed it throughout the process and not at too many decades later.