Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 14:47:40 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <57e39a05-e8a1-e5af-5d0c-63a17e1bb0f2@example.net> References: <67b21894$14$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <87tt8odsb7.fsf@example.com> <1b411147-a833-8c73-2d85-e5c749fc23b9@example.net> <87ikp03y4r.fsf@example.com> <87r03kicin.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2037712"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; In-Reply-To: <87r03kicin.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:26760 On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Mike Spencer wrote: > All well. There are differing kinds of intelligence and his strength > lay in spatial relations and tangible physical forms, not language. True, but it seems to me that the general trend is downwards, and that it will have negative implication for the innovation in the future. Even implications for maintenance, if the horror stories here are to believed. =( > But people taking a university-level Great Books course are a > different matter. So are people studying how computers operate. > Language is a fundamental intellectual tool. Shopping, stichomythia, > ideas reduced to 168-char squibs and, yes, shopping look to me like > degenerate forms of disciplined thinking. > > As a digression, an assignment left for the reader, consider the > command line, even one as intimidating as that for gcc. After decades > of change, with the accretion of a multitude of options, it retains > the same linguistic form of a command. > > But how do you get along with a GUI for something of similar > complexity when someone 20 or 30 or 40 years your junior, decides that > a complete redesign of of the GUI is a desirable and necessary > improvement? He grew up in a mental Manhattan or a Mental Tokyo, > demolishes the graphical Boston of your favorite tool and rebuilds it > to match his visual head-space. True! I enjoy the fact that my bash scripts have worked for several decades! =) > So you can learn it all over again. Life-long learning is supposed to > be about learning new stuff, but about learning the same stuff over > and over. I tell my students that a career in IT is life-long learning, and if they don't enjoy learning new things, they should find another career. A bit over the top perhaps, but I do try to scare the ones who do not enjoy learning new things at the start of the program. ;)