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Re: 2 small annoyances, maybe possible future features?

From D <nospam@example.net>
Newsgroups comp.mail.pine
Subject Re: 2 small annoyances, maybe possible future features?
Date 2025-01-14 19:20 +0100
Organization i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, D wrote:
>
>> 1. When I search for something in well filled mailbox, and don't get a hit, 
>> I get a message along the lines of... "search failed". The problem is that 
>> this "locks" or freezes the keyboard for 1 second or so, so I cannot 
>> immediately type ";" to start a new search. I must wait about 1 second for 
>> the message to disapper, and then I can search again.
>> 
>> Does anyone know if there's a time out in the code, or some setting I can 
>> change to allow me to search again instantly in case a search turns up 
>> empty?
>
> if you are using the select command to do a search, you will get a message 
> like 'select failed. no messages selected'. in this case the duration of the 
> display of this message is for 3 seconds.

Ah, yes exactly!

> i realize this is annoying. i sometimes wish something similar. the reason 
> you are seeing this is because alpine is making an effort to show you error 
> messages, so that you actually see them.
>
> internal functions of alpine send messages to the screen. alpine does not 
> show you all the messages these functions send. for example, a function might 
> send the message 'opening inbox', but alpine might not show you that message 
> because another function sent it the message  'folder inbox opened with 20 
> messages'. in that case, alpine will show you the latter one, not the first 
> one because it thinks you want to see that message, not the first one.
>
> the same happens with error messages. alpine makes sure that you see error 
> messages, and it enforces those 3 seconds by locking the program and not 
> letting you do anything else. that is what you are experiencing.

Ok, I see the logic. But since it is a 3 second delay, it sounds as if it should
be a simple thing for me to just change from a 3 to a 0.5 or so in the code, and
seeing the messages 0.5 seconds instead of 3 seconds, or even 0.3 or what ever,
would be much much better! =)

I'll grep through the code a bit, and if the stars align I'd expect this to be
an easy thing to change.

Thank you very much for the explanation!

>> 2. Some times when I write emails I have to attach files that are in a 
>> directory with hundreds if not thousands of files.
>> 
>> 2.1. Does anyone know how I can get to the end of the directory list 
>> quickly? Today I have to scroll. It would be great if I could press G like 
>> in vim to go to the end instantly. Also, when navigating directories, I use 
>> the arrows, but is there some way that I can navigate by typing letters?
>
> in the attachment screen there is a command ctrl-w hat allows you to go 
> places. for example, to go to the last file, you would type ctrl-w ctrl-v, or 
> type the name of a file to get to its location. i hope this helps.

Ahhhhh! What a relief! How could I _not_ see this? I'm ashamed that I had to ask
when this was so easily visible in the bar at the bottom of the screen.

Regardless, thank you Eduardo for your patience, help and work. This was a nice
itch to scratch, thank you! =)

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2 small annoyances, maybe possible future features? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 16:34 +0100
  Re: 2 small annoyances, maybe possible future features? Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2025-01-13 21:57 -0700
    Re: 2 small annoyances, maybe possible future features? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 19:20 +0100
    Re: 2 small annoyances, maybe possible future features? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 22:57 +0100
      Re: 2 small annoyances, maybe possible future features? Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2025-01-14 20:15 -0700
        Re: 2 small annoyances, maybe possible future features? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 09:54 +0100

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