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Re: Question about offline reading/sending.

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On Tue, 30 Jul 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:

>> Does anyone here know of a nice way to get alpine to automatically send 
>> those postponed messages when internet is restored, or perhaps even just 
>> send all postponed messages with one keypress?
>
> Assuming you are using Linux, it is possible to coax an MTA, like perhaps 
> postfix, into accepting mail while offline, and then automatically send them 
> when there is internet. It is not delayed for ever, just 5 days I think. And 
> it will mail you about delayed mail after some hours of delay.

Hello Carlos and thank you very much for your thoughts and feedback.
Indeed, I did think along these lines, but ideally, I'd like to have a
"self contained" alpine and not need so much tooling around it.

But I have not (yet) managed to come up with an "alpine contained"
solution for sending several postponed messages at once, so what you say
makes a lot of sense.

>
>
>> 
>> In terms of news I've brutally hacked leafnode to download news to a local 
>> folder. Then I have a python script that sorts them into Maildir folders 
>> named after the newsgroups. That way I can enjoy reading and responding to 
>> news while on a plane or off line.
>> 
>> When sending, for some strange reason, alpine picks up on the fact that it 
>> is a news message as long as the Newsgroup header is filled in, so it works 
>> just like email above, with postpone and then manually go into each 
>> newsgroup post and send them.
>
> You could instead use a news proxy such as leafnode, which is designed for 
> this usage.

I do use leafnode, but specifically, I only use the fetchnews component
to fetch my news and sort them into Maildir folders. Then I use alpine
to browse those folders and it works great!

What I did miss was the tab functionality to take me to the next unread
message, even across groups, but then I found a way to replicate this
with a simple search for unread messages, and then by zooming in on that
selection.

The end result is pretty close to "tabbing" my way to victory.

When it comes to using leafnode "as is" there was something that didn't
quite work, but I don't quite remember what it was that caused me to
abandon that way of doing it. _Perhaps_ it was something about how
alpine in news mode handled unread messages vs new messages that didn't
quite fit with how alpine handled unread vs new messages in maildir
folders.

But I might have a second look.

> You have to manually (or periodically with a cron job) fetch news into a 
> local structure, and send posts manually but with a single command when there 
> is a connection. Alpine is then configured to use this local "fake" news 
> server. This leafnode was created for use with intermitent and  expensive 
> internet via a modem. The operation could be automated with the modem going 
> up.

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Question about offline reading/sending. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-06-17 23:51 +0200
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