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Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick

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On Tue, 17 Mar 2026, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026, Xavier Maillard wrote:
>
>> can someone explain to me why, while reading a NNTP newsgroup, does not 
>> persist the marks ?
>
> The alpine model of reading newsgroups is not the same model that other
> newsreaders have. Alpine tries to imitate your email ideas in newsgroups, not 
> the other way around (which is what you expect).

More than I expect, this is the way I used to see it :)

> What this means in practice is that when you read a message (email or news) 
> this is marked read. If you do not want the message to appear in your index 
> you must "D"elete it. But wait, you cannot delete a message in a newsgroup, 
> because if you could, no one else would be able to read it, so the "D"elete 
> command is actually an "Exclude" command: Every time you "D"elete a message 
> from a newsgroup, you will "Exclude" it from the view the next time you open 
> the newsgroup, so that is the official way to not to see a message after you 
> have read it: delete it.
>
> Alpine offers the "&" comand in newsgroups to UNexclude messages that have 
> been excluded. You can read old posts that have been exlcuded and not expired 
> in your server that way.

Thanks for that.

> That is the way to do that. However, I do not read newsgroups that way. What 
> I do is to use a maildrop in Alpine that moves all the messages from the 
> newsgroup to a local folder, where I keep track of what I replied to, and 
> have read, just like reading email in a normal folder, intead of a newsgroup. 
> If you are using Alpine to read this message, follow the following link 
> withing Alpine to read its help. x-alpine-help:h_maildrop

I read it but I failed to set it up. I already have defined my inbox-path 
which is using my Imap. I tried to M S C then on the inbox-path, I did a 
but it replaced my previous value. Any hint ? Should I do C or A ?

  -Xavier

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    Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick Xavier Maillard <x@maillard.im> - 2026-03-17 03:14 +0100
      Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-03-17 03:13 +0000
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          Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-03-17 07:28 +0000
            Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick Xavier Maillard <x@maillard.im> - 2026-03-17 19:26 +0100
              Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-03-17 18:31 +0000
  Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-03-17 22:15 -0600
    Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick Xavier Maillard <x@maillard.im> - 2026-03-18 07:29 +0100
      Re: NNTP: marking all posts as read does not stick Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-03-18 00:47 -0600
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