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Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello)

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Vincent Manis wrote in post #992403:

> 1. I would be willing to draft a `Totally New To Programming' page for
> ruby-lang.org, if there's sentiment that this would be a useful thing.

  i definitely think this would be useful.  ruby is such a 'friendly'
language, that it invites people with little or no experience
programming (like yours truly) to get started...  i do think a page for
the absolute newb would be useful for a lot of people.


> 3. An IDE for beginners should be relatively limited, with relatively
> few dingbats and gizmos to confuse. It should focus on offering basic
> editing facilities, along with the ability to write and run programs.
> Beginners don't need API documentation, though a Ruby reference card
> would probably be handy.

  agreed that it shouldn't be too complex - that could just frustrate
people more, but i think something fairly in depth would be good - just
the nuts and bolts, but well explained (method arguments, examples,
etc.)

> And that suggests using Tk as the GUI, because that's included in every
> Ruby distribution.

  if Tk isn't working, shoes might be a good option, as it is easy and
comes with an interpreter built-in.  i use gtk2 myself, but i know it
isn't so cross platform friendly.  i would be happy to help out with
layout/design in any way that i can.

> Is there any sentiment that this would all be a worthwhile effort?

  absolutely...


 - j

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Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-12 10:30 -0500
  Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 12:32 -0500
  Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) andrew mcelroy <sophrinix@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 12:48 -0500
    Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-12 13:59 -0500
      Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> - 2011-04-12 20:30 -0500
        Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Stu <stu@rubyprogrammer.net> - 2011-04-12 22:23 -0500
          Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-13 04:08 -0500
            Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Stu <stu@rubyprogrammer.net> - 2011-04-14 23:01 -0500
        Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-13 04:05 -0500
        Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) jake kaiden <jakekaiden@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-13 07:41 -0500
        Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 07:59 -0500
          Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> - 2011-04-13 09:48 -0500
            Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-13 10:03 -0500
              Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> - 2011-04-13 20:35 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-14 09:26 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Jim Maher <jdmaher@jdmaher.com> - 2011-04-14 10:28 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-14 10:42 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Adam Madrigal <ajmxt9@hotmail.com> - 2011-04-14 10:29 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-14 11:45 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-14 14:33 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> - 2011-04-14 16:43 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-14 17:12 -0500
                Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> - 2011-04-14 18:03 -0500
              Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@headius.com> - 2011-04-14 00:38 -0500
        Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) terryowen <terryo.ia@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 11:45 -0700
    Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) jake kaiden <jakekaiden@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-12 15:30 -0500
  Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Jim Maher <jdmaher@jdmaher.com> - 2011-04-13 11:14 -0500
    Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 12:27 -0500
      Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) jake kaiden <jakekaiden@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-13 20:57 -0500

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