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IDE for python

Started bySameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com>
First post2014-05-28 03:43 -0700
Last post2014-05-30 11:04 +0200
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  IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 03:43 -0700
    Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 13:50 +0300
      Re: IDE for python Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 18:46 +0700
        Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 05:56 -0700
          Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 06:01 -0700
            Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 15:36 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-29 08:09 +0000
            Re: IDE for python Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-29 08:32 +0000
      Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:55 +1000
        Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-28 08:38 -0700
          Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-06-02 07:28 +0000
          Re: IDE for python Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-06-02 09:15 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 10:02 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 19:15 +1000
          Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-06-02 10:10 +0000
          Re: IDE for python Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-06-02 11:43 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 13:11 +0100
      Re: IDE for python Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 08:13 +0700
      Programmer's text editor, for Python and everything else (was: IDE for python) Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-29 12:51 +1000
    答复: IDE for python "cheng.li" <scrappedprince.li@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 18:51 +0800
    Re: IDE for python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-28 11:03 +0000
    Re: IDE for python Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina.rakotomandimby@rktmb.org> - 2014-05-28 13:51 +0300
      Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 04:31 -0700
        Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:00 +1000
        Re: IDE for python "prashanth B.G" <prash.bg@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 17:41 +0530
        Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 13:35 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 06:27 -0700
        Re: IDE for python Joseph Martinot-Lagarde <joseph.martinot-lagarde@m4x.org> - 2014-06-04 02:12 +0200
    Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 21:33 +1000
    Re: IDE for python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-28 13:04 +0000
      Re: IDE for python "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-05-29 00:12 +0100
        Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 18:02 +1000
    Re: IDE for python William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2014-05-28 08:47 -0400
    Re: IDE for python Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 09:25 -0500
    Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-05-28 18:24 +0200
      Re: IDE for python "Ernest Bonat, Ph.D." <ernest.bonat@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 10:24 -0700
    Re: IDE for python Deb Wyatt <codemonkey@inbox.com> - 2014-05-28 09:39 -0800
    Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 12:10 -0700
    Re: IDE for python Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-29 08:13 +1000
    Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-05-29 11:41 +0200
    Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-29 12:39 -0400
      Re: IDE for python Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 17:44 +0100
        Re: IDE for python Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 15:11 -0500
          Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 21:41 +0100
          Re: IDE for python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-30 12:23 +0000
        Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 05:53 -0700
          Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-30 16:54 +0300
            Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 07:04 -0700
              Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 08:06 -0700
                Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 09:15 -0700
                  Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-30 12:37 -0400
                    Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 09:40 -0700
                  Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 17:38 +0100
                    Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 10:07 -0700
                      Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 18:27 +0100
                      Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 18:48 -0700
                        Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-01 00:38 -0700
                        Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-01 10:58 +0300
                          Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 18:31 +1000
                            Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 01:52 -0700
                            Re: IDE for python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-01 09:06 +0000
                              Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 19:59 +1000
                    Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-31 01:46 -0700
                  Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 10:17 -0700
                    Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 10:30 -0700
                      Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 11:43 -0700
            Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-30 11:46 -0400
          Re: IDE for python "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-06-01 00:17 +0100
    Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 02:51 +1000
    Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-29 16:45 -0400
    Re: IDE for python Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-30 07:05 +1000
    Re: IDE for python Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 15:40 -0700
      Re: IDE for python Andrea D'Amore <anddamNOALPASTICCIODICARNE+gruppi@brapi.net> - 2014-05-30 09:21 +0200
        Re: IDE for python Andrea D'Amore <anddamNOALPASTICCIODICARNE+gruppi@brapi.net> - 2014-05-30 11:04 +0200

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#72149

Fromalister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com>
Date2014-05-28 11:03 +0000
Message-ID<8ojhv.185057$ub6.86481@fx32.am4>
In reply to#72145
On Wed, 28 May 2014 03:43:29 -0700, Sameer Rathoud wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am new to python.
> 
> I am currently using python 3.3
> 
> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
> 
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

there Are plenty
I use Geany a lightweight cross platform editor but you will probably get 
as (at least as )many different answers as there are posters here :-)



-- 
Time is the most valuable thing a man can spend.
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#72150

FromMihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina.rakotomandimby@rktmb.org>
Date2014-05-28 13:51 +0300
Message-ID<mailman.10387.1401275471.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72145
On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

I think major IDEs in the place have their Python integration.
Did you make some search and tried each one?

With just the information you provided, every existing IDE is OK.

- What didnt you like in IDLE?
- What IDE do you use for anything else thant Python?


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#72152

FromSameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-28 04:31 -0700
Message-ID<798134c1-3c0b-4ad2-99ef-d65b2101e3dc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#72150
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:21:22 PM UTC+5:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> 
> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
> 
> 
> 
> I think major IDEs in the place have their Python integration.
> 
> Did you make some search and tried each one?
> 
> 
> 
> With just the information you provided, every existing IDE is OK.
> 
> 
> 
> - What didnt you like in IDLE?
> 
> - What IDE do you use for anything else thant Python?

for C++ and C# development I prefer visual studio and for C++ try outs even codeblock is ok

For Java I use eclipse.

But first time I am trying python. I was trying some UI  with python. I have installed wingide. But i didn't liked it because for licenses messages even in trial version.

I was searching for spyder, but didn't got any helpful installable.

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#72154

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-28 22:00 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.10390.1401278422.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72152
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Sameer Rathoud
<sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> wrote:
> for C++ and C# development I prefer visual studio and for C++ try outs even codeblock is ok
>
> For Java I use eclipse.
>
> But first time I am trying python. I was trying some UI  with python. I have installed wingide. But i didn't liked it because for licenses messages even in trial version.
>
> I was searching for spyder, but didn't got any helpful installable.

Yep, so you're accustomed to an IDE. But just try a good editor like
SciTE or Geany or emacs (or ... or ... or ...), and see how you like
it. As an added bonus, you can get to know one editor and use it for
everything, rather than having separate IDEs for separate languages.

ChrisA

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#72155

From"prashanth B.G" <prash.bg@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-28 17:41 +0530
Message-ID<mailman.10391.1401279072.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72152

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Hi Sameer,

           Try pycharm, ninja ide, wings ide .. These are light and will
help you to get started. Later on you can switch to vim which has many
plugins for python.

           Also feel free to take a look at this link on stackoverflow
comparing different features .

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python

Thanks.




On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:21:22 PM UTC+5:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> wrote:
> > On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> >
> > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think major IDEs in the place have their Python integration.
> >
> > Did you make some search and tried each one?
> >
> >
> >
> > With just the information you provided, every existing IDE is OK.
> >
> >
> >
> > - What didnt you like in IDLE?
> >
> > - What IDE do you use for anything else thant Python?
>
> for C++ and C# development I prefer visual studio and for C++ try outs
> even codeblock is ok
>
> For Java I use eclipse.
>
> But first time I am trying python. I was trying some UI  with python. I
> have installed wingide. But i didn't liked it because for licenses messages
> even in trial version.
>
> I was searching for spyder, but didn't got any helpful installable.
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>



-- 
             *****HAVE A NICE DAY *****

                         Prashanth

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#72156

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-05-28 13:35 +0100
Message-ID<mailman.10393.1401280507.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72152
On 28/05/2014 12:31, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:21:22 PM UTC+5:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>> On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
>>
>>> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think major IDEs in the place have their Python integration.
>>
>> Did you make some search and tried each one?
>>
>>
>>
>> With just the information you provided, every existing IDE is OK.
>>
>>
>>
>> - What didnt you like in IDLE?
>>
>> - What IDE do you use for anything else thant Python?
>
> for C++ and C# development I prefer visual studio and for C++ try outs even codeblock is ok
>
> For Java I use eclipse.

Get the pydev plugin for eclipse.  Pydev uses pylint to flag up errors 
or warnings as you type, saves hours of work.

>
> But first time I am trying python. I was trying some UI  with python. I have installed wingide. But i didn't liked it because for licenses messages even in trial version.
>
> I was searching for spyder, but didn't got any helpful installable.
>

Also would you please use the mailing list 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or read and action 
this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us 
seeing double line spacing and single line paragraphs, thanks.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#72163

FromSameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-28 06:27 -0700
Message-ID<ed7ed075-1ac1-45f5-bb29-92d85e930c5f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#72156
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:05:08 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 28/05/2014 12:31, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:21:22 PM UTC+5:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> 
> >> On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> I think major IDEs in the place have their Python integration.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Did you make some search and tried each one?
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> With just the information you provided, every existing IDE is OK.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> - What didnt you like in IDLE?
> 
> >>
> 
> >> - What IDE do you use for anything else thant Python?
> 
> >
> 
> > for C++ and C# development I prefer visual studio and for C++ try outs even codeblock is ok
> 
> >
> 
> > For Java I use eclipse.
> 
> 
> 
> Get the pydev plugin for eclipse.  Pydev uses pylint to flag up errors 
> 
> or warnings as you type, saves hours of work.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> 
> > But first time I am trying python. I was trying some UI  with python. I have installed wingide. But i didn't liked it because for licenses messages even in trial version.
> 
> >
> 
> > I was searching for spyder, but didn't got any helpful installable.
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Also would you please use the mailing list 
> 
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or read and action 
> 
> this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us 
> 
> seeing double line spacing and single line paragraphs, thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
> 
> what you can do for our language.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Lawrence
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
> 
> http://www.avast.com

Hi,

Thanks a lot everyone, for your valuable suggestion. 

I have successfully plugged-in PyDev and it is working great for me.

Once again thanks a lot

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#72562

FromJoseph Martinot-Lagarde <joseph.martinot-lagarde@m4x.org>
Date2014-06-04 02:12 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.10654.1401840767.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72152
Le 28/05/2014 13:31, Sameer Rathoud a écrit :
> I was searching for spyder, but didn't got any helpful installable.
>
What problem did you encounter while trying to install spyder ?

Spyder is oriented towards scientific applications, but can be used as a 
general python IDE. I use it for GUI development too.

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#72153

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-28 21:33 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.10389.1401276783.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72145
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud
<sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am currently using python 3.3
>
> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
>
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

You don't really need an IDE, generally. A good text editor - I use
SciTE, but as alister said, there are as many viable answers as there
are posters - is all you need. Back when I wrote code in Q-BASIC,
VX-REXX, and then C and C++, I used IDEs, but even then the main
features I used were just smart text editors.

My preferred "IDE", these days, is Debian Linux with Xfce, which gives
me a convenient workspace in which to run SciTE plus a few dozen
terminal windows. One of them will be dedicated to source control
(git, hg, or whatever the current project uses); some of those do have
GUI interfaces or editor integration, but I find it easiest to use the
command line. Another generally is for running the program, unless
it's one that permanently stays running (or is being remotely
manipulated via a TCP/IP link). Then, depending on what I'm doing, I
might have a few more... maybe a music player (or maybe that's VLC,
invoked via the Yosemite Project), maybe a few man pages, whatever
else I need. It's highly unlikely that anyone's written an IDE that
does everything I could possibly want, so I just use the computer's
desktop as that IDE. It can do anything! :)

ChrisA

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#72162

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2014-05-28 13:04 +0000
Message-ID<5385def6$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#72145
On Wed, 28 May 2014 03:43:29 -0700, Sameer Rathoud wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am new to python.
> 
> I am currently using python 3.3
> 
> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
> 
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

What operating system are you using? The best IDE for Python is Unix or 
Linux:

http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/


My IDE is to have three GUI windows open:

* A web browser for searching the Internet. Any browser will do, but I 
prefer Firefox.

* A tabbed editor. I prefer kate (KDE 3 version, not KDE 4), but geany is 
also good. At a pinch gedit will do. kwrite is another good editor, but 
not tabbed, and it lacks some of the features of kate.

* An xterm or console app, again with tabs. I like KDE 3's konsole, but 
any modern, configurable, tabbed console will do.

If I'm working collaboratively with others, I'll also have an IRC client 
open, for chatting. Or being distracted, more likely. I'll often also 
have a Unicode character selector open, such as KCharSelect or Gnome 
Charmap.

I open a few tabs in the console:

* At least one tab running in a Python interactive interpreter, for 
testing small snippets of code, running the Python interactive help() 
system, and so forth.

* At least one tab for running my code, or my unit tests.

* Another tab for managing files, including source control (hg or git).

Some people like to do all of this from a single tab, using the screen 
command to manage virtual tabs. I am not one of those people. For the 
same reason, I prefer GUI editors over emacs or vim.




-- 
Steven D'Aprano
http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/

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#72200

From"Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk>
Date2014-05-29 00:12 +0100
Message-ID<op.xgleqggp5079vu@gnudebeest>
In reply to#72162
On Wed, 28 May 2014 14:04:55 +0100, Steven D'Aprano  
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:

> My IDE is to have three GUI windows open:
>
> * A web browser for searching the Internet. Any browser will do, but I
> prefer Firefox.
>
> * A tabbed editor. I prefer kate (KDE 3 version, not KDE 4), but geany is
> also good. At a pinch gedit will do. kwrite is another good editor, but
> not tabbed, and it lacks some of the features of kate.
>
> * An xterm or console app, again with tabs. I like KDE 3's konsole, but
> any modern, configurable, tabbed console will do.

Interesting.  I'm entirely the other way; while I'm perfectly happy to use  
a tabbed browser, I find tabbed editors and tabbed consoles awful to use.   
I want to have three different sections of code side by side on the screen  
for comparison.  I want to have half a dozen consoles all running  
different things, all positioned so I can take in the state of those  
things at a glance.  I do not want to be wasting time flicking between  
this and that, and relying on my relatively poor memory to cache all that  
information :-)

Then again, I'm not as bad as one former colleague of mine.  He reckons  
that the main advantage of higher resolution screens is that he can tile  
more 80x40 console windows on them.

-- 
Rhodri James *-* Wildebeest Herder to the Masses

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#72225

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-29 18:02 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.10442.1401350565.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72200
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Rhodri James <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2014 14:04:55 +0100, Steven D'Aprano
> <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
>> My IDE is to have three GUI windows open:
>>
>> * A web browser for searching the Internet. Any browser will do, but I
>> prefer Firefox.
>>
>> * A tabbed editor. I prefer kate (KDE 3 version, not KDE 4), but geany is
>> also good. At a pinch gedit will do. kwrite is another good editor, but
>> not tabbed, and it lacks some of the features of kate.
>>
>> * An xterm or console app, again with tabs. I like KDE 3's konsole, but
>> any modern, configurable, tabbed console will do.
>
>
> Interesting.  I'm entirely the other way; while I'm perfectly happy to use a
> tabbed browser, I find tabbed editors and tabbed consoles awful to use.  I
> want to have three different sections of code side by side on the screen for
> comparison.  I want to have half a dozen consoles all running different
> things, all positioned so I can take in the state of those things at a
> glance.  I do not want to be wasting time flicking between this and that,
> and relying on my relatively poor memory to cache all that information :-)
>
> Then again, I'm not as bad as one former colleague of mine.  He reckons that
> the main advantage of higher resolution screens is that he can tile more
> 80x40 console windows on them.

I'm half way in between. Tabbed web browser, tabbed editor, but all my
terminals/consoles are untabbed. I don't use screen/tmux to have
multiple consoles in one window, I use them to share a console between
two systems (eg ssh to someone else's computer and let him/her watch
what I'm doing). When I switch from terminal to terminal, I use their
position and size to identify them (most of my terminal windows are
80x24; some are full screen; and if I'm working with avconv, I widen
the window to about 110 or 120).

Oh, and I use a tabbed MUD client, which (along with my editor) is
pinned to all Xfce workspaces. But the web browser is Workspace 3
only. Not sure why I do that.

ChrisA

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#72164

FromWilliam Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com>
Date2014-05-28 08:47 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.10400.1401284903.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72145
On May 28, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am new to python.
> 
> I am currently using python 3.3
> 
> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
> 
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
> -- 
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

There are several comparison tables and reviews of Python IDEs on the web.
You should check the following and see what suits you best:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments#Python

http://www.pythoncentral.io/comparison-of-python-ides-development/

https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python

http://pedrokroger.net/choosing-best-python-ide/

http://spyced.blogspot.com/2005/09/review-of-6-python-ides.html

Good Luck,
-Bill

PS: As it happens, I use (and like) Wing IDE, but have NO relation to the development company,
    other than as a satisfied user.

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#72165

FromMark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-28 09:25 -0500
Message-ID<lm4rk4$u72$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#72145
On 5/28/14 5:43 AM, Sameer Rathoud wrote:

> I am currently using python 3.3
> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

I tend to agree with Chris & Steven on this... a good gnu/linux desktop 
is the best IDE (debian, xfce, terminals galore)

Early in my unix career I learned VI (now VIM) and find that for most 
editing jobs (even from remote) --- can't be beat.

OTOH, I would highly recommend getting comfortable with IDLE; especially 
if you're using 3.3+ /   the modern IDLE works, is stable, and has many 
advantages over just a tabbed editor. It is highly configurable, simple 
and elegant, not to mention that its written against tkinter with pure 
python. Today I'm using IDLE for python development almost exclusively.

You no doubt are getting comfortable with python's indentation code 
blocking delimiting anomaly. IDLE helps with that. Yes, you can use 
tabs, but you shouldn't (for several reasons, I spare you). Typically 
the indentation is 4 spaces; IDLE handles this for you automatically 
(mostly) and allows the 4 spaces to be reconfigured.

The only really irritating aspect of IDLE which I had to get used to was 
that the interactive REPL provides no way to clear the screen. Its 
debugging capabilities (and undo levels) more than make up for that tiny 
small snag.

You will come to appreciate the class path browser, recent files, &c. 
The default highlight colors are well chosen (they may be changed) and 
the window size and fonts may be changed. I think IDLE looks good. Its 
clean, clear, and functional.

I guess what I'm encouraging you to do is be patient with IDLE until you 
get a grip on it. There's more to it than meets the eye, at first.

marcus

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#72170

FromWolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net>
Date2014-05-28 18:24 +0200
Message-ID<20140528182405.42ecfcb57c0352a0f11b6a00@gmx.net>
In reply to#72145
> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
> 
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

There are a lot of IDEs for Python.

One classic is WingIDE. Available for free is a "101" edition. Runs on
all major operating systems. Implemented itself in Python.

An editor that's completely implemented in Python is Editra. With
plugins you can turn it into an "almost IDE" as well.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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#72172

From"Ernest Bonat, Ph.D." <ernest.bonat@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-28 10:24 -0700
Message-ID<mailman.10410.1401297865.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72170

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I believe in IDE with a complete project structure development and
debugging tool. I have to time for a lot of typing. Mi option is Eclipse
IDE with PyDev plugin.

Thanks


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:

> > With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
> >
> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
>
> There are a lot of IDEs for Python.
>
> One classic is WingIDE. Available for free is a "101" edition. Runs on
> all major operating systems. Implemented itself in Python.
>
> An editor that's completely implemented in Python is Editra. With
> plugins you can turn it into an "almost IDE" as well.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Wolfgang
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>



-- 
Thanks

Ernest Bonat, Ph.D.
Senior Software Engineer
Senior Business Statistics Analyst
Mobile: 503.730.4556
Email: ernest.bonat@gmail.com

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#72174

FromDeb Wyatt <codemonkey@inbox.com>
Date2014-05-28 09:39 -0800
Message-ID<mailman.10411.1401298746.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72145


>> On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
>> 
>>> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
>> 
<snip> 
> But first time I am trying python. I was trying some UI  with python. I
> have installed wingide. But i didn't liked it because for licenses
> messages even in trial version.
> 
<snip>.
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

I'm using http://wingware.com/downloads/wingide-101.  no irritating messages. It's not the full version, but it works well for me.  I was using Geany before that and can't remember what Geany did to irritate me lol.  Everybody has their favorites.  I hope you find an ide that you love.

Deb in WA, USA

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#72179

FromRustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-28 12:10 -0700
Message-ID<433fb2bc-f733-492c-a340-cbcdf4a9b08c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#72145
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:13:29 PM UTC+5:30, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> Hello everyone,

> I am new to python.

> I am currently using python 3.3

> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.

> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

Im not going to add to the answers.
I do suggest you read 
http://blog.osteele.com/posts/2004/11/ides

and decide
- where you think you fall in the spectrum
- where you would like to be

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#72196

FromBen Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au>
Date2014-05-29 08:13 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.10425.1401315245.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72145
Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> writes:

> I am new to python.
> I am currently using python 3.3

Welcome! You're off to a good start, using Python 3 :-)

> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

What other programming languages are you familiar with?

Learning a programming language is difficult enough. It should *not*
entail all the effort of evaluating and learning a language-specific
IDE; you should already be using an IDE that supports the new language.


I strongly recommend learning *one* IDE which is free software, has good
cross-platform and cross-language support, is mature and flexible.

My IDE is Bash, Screen, and Emacs:

* a terminal, running a GNU Screen session; Screen windows include:

  * Bash in various Screen windows

  * Emacs

  * an automated test runner

  * a database client

You should invest the effort to learn either of Vim or Emacs. They both:

* are free software, ensuring there are no barriers to their continued
  maintenance into the indefinite future;

* mature, ensuring they have survived numerous IDE fads and already
  incorporate a lot of accumulated wisdom;

* cross-platform, working the same on every development operating system
  today;

* cross-language, supporting every important programming language and
  hundreds of minor ones.

Learn either one of them, *once*, and you will be able to use the same
toolset for any other languages you need.

-- 
 \        “A free press is one where it's okay to state the conclusion |
  `\                      you're led to by the evidence.” —Bill Moyers |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

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#72231

FromWolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de>
Date2014-05-29 11:41 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.10445.1401356511.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#72145
On 28.05.2014 12:43, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am new to python.
>
> I am currently using python 3.3
>
> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.
>
> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
>

Seems like not too many other people on this list share my opinion, but 
let me just say that IDLE is a nice and sufficient (for my purposes) IDE.
If you're used to eclipse, then stick with it, but I prefer IDLE over 
any text editor although admittedly some of its keyboard shortcuts are 
unusual choices.
Cheers,
Wolfgang

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