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| Started by | Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2014-05-28 14:23 -0500 |
| Last post | 2014-05-31 09:28 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 324 — 57 participants |
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Python 3 is killing Python Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 14:23 -0500
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-05-28 21:39 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 22:41 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 12:49 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 14:58 -0500
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-29 03:49 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 21:23 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 06:38 -0500
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 06:15 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 21:24 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-28 23:14 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 15:12 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2014-07-14 23:37 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-14 23:47 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 18:00 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 11:18 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 09:28 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 18:54 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 12:11 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 21:18 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 14:40 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 06:31 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-15 05:41 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2014-07-16 20:18 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 22:15 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-07-17 17:36 +1200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 15:45 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 15:45 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-15 08:05 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-07-15 12:30 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-15 00:59 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-07-15 12:19 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-15 15:50 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-07-15 17:38 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-15 18:23 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-15 16:35 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-29 08:38 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 16:22 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python beliavsky@aol.com - 2014-08-06 06:47 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-06 14:42 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-07 12:42 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-07 13:37 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-08-07 21:07 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-28 21:57 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-05-31 12:07 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-05-31 13:09 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2014-05-31 13:22 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-06-01 04:57 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 13:35 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 21:11 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-06-01 13:38 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2014-06-01 07:01 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-01 07:52 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-06-01 13:41 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-01 12:53 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-01 17:21 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2014-06-02 07:14 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-31 12:30 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-31 08:48 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:01 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-02 16:15 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-02 12:21 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 02:30 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-02 16:52 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-02 19:16 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 11:53 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 18:59 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-02 23:12 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 23:30 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-03 09:03 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-06-03 07:22 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 21:58 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-15 00:23 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-15 08:31 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 21:47 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 14:20 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 14:17 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 23:00 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2014-07-15 09:57 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 00:31 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-15 20:38 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-15 19:06 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-15 23:01 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 03:51 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 14:20 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 07:33 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 08:52 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 16:26 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 09:44 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 16:50 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 00:11 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 07:49 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 18:44 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 11:35 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 21:54 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 13:46 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 12:10 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 22:55 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 06:10 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 16:11 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 06:22 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 00:04 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 17:39 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 01:23 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 18:48 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 02:07 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 19:20 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-17 02:51 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 13:15 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-17 12:27 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-07-17 07:18 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-17 07:49 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 14:31 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-16 17:02 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-16 18:47 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-07-16 16:27 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 15:41 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 00:00 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 18:16 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-17 03:14 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 08:17 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 12:49 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 20:34 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-18 14:17 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 13:20 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 23:54 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-17 03:16 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 21:47 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 12:12 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 21:12 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 11:15 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 04:27 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-17 21:44 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 19:24 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 12:39 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 21:40 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-18 08:24 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 08:34 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-18 14:19 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 08:35 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> - 2014-07-18 17:25 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-18 19:45 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 20:06 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-07-17 12:22 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 21:37 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-17 17:30 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-17 20:13 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-18 18:38 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 01:26 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 12:54 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> - 2014-07-17 19:45 -0500
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 13:01 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 16:45 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 12:15 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 20:37 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 15:34 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 02:21 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 18:27 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-18 16:46 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 16:49 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 16:50 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 17:22 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-18 21:27 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-18 21:21 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 09:29 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 02:41 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 12:00 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 13:39 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 09:13 +1000
Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-19 16:45 -0400
Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 18:31 -0700
Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 11:42 +1000
Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-20 12:40 +0100
Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-20 17:52 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 18:22 -0700
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 11:32 +1000
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-20 23:49 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 10:55 +1000
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-20 23:28 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 13:34 +1000
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-21 05:00 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-21 13:00 -0700
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 20:56 +1000
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-21 14:30 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 04:35 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 15:50 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-19 19:23 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 09:10 +1000
Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-21 02:54 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 08:24 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-18 18:20 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 19:31 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-18 20:44 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 14:37 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-07-18 18:09 -0400
Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-19 07:28 +0000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2014-07-19 11:08 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-19 14:31 -0400
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-20 01:23 +0000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 11:39 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2014-07-19 18:53 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] CHIN Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 08:37 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 14:18 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 07:50 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 09:19 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 10:41 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2014-07-19 18:24 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] TP <wingusr@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 19:03 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2014-07-19 20:10 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-08-01 13:10 +0200
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 21:22 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-01 15:19 +0300
Re: Python and IDEs Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 22:30 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-01 23:10 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 23:30 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-01 18:13 +0300
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-08-06 14:38 +0200
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-06 22:51 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-08-11 11:08 +0200
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Nicholas Cole <nicholas.cole@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 15:28 +0100
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-08-06 14:47 +0200
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-07 13:32 +1000
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| From | Abhiram R <abhi.darkness@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 03:05 +0530 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11852.1405460635.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74494 |
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Umm..Guido Van Rossum said in Pycon 2014 that Py 2.x would be supported only until 2015 :-| So...you know.. you have like an year before you *do *have to migrate to 3.x . On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > > On 15/07/2014 18:38, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >> > >> Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>: > >> > >>> Fine. Tell me how you would go about adding true Unicode support to > >>> Python 2.7, while still having it able to import an unchanged program. > >>> Trick question - it's fundamentally impossible, because an unchanged > >>> program will not distinguish between bytes and text, but true Unicode > >>> support requires that they be distinguished. > >> > >> > >> Python 2 has always had unicode strings and [byte] strings. They were > >> always clearly distinguished. You really didn't have to change anything > >> for "true Unicode support". > >> > > > > That is the funniest tongue in cheek comment I've read in the 10+ years > > I''ve been hanging around here. It was tongue in cheek, wasn't it? > > What isn't "true" about Python 2.x's unicode support? The only feature > I ever missed was case folding. (Not that 3.x does much better at that... > :) > > The stdlib had poor unicode support, if that's what you mean. That > could've been fixed without introducing backwards-incompatible > changes, though. > > -- Devin > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Abhiram.R M.Tech CSE (Sem 3) RVCE Bangalore
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 22:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11853.1405461004.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74494 |
On 15/07/2014 22:35, Abhiram R wrote: > Umm..Guido Van Rossum said in Pycon 2014 that Py 2.x would be supported > only until 2015 :-| So...you know.. you have like an year before you /do > /have to migrate to 3.x . > -- > Abhiram.R > M.Tech CSE (Sem 3) > RVCE > Bangalore > > a) please don't top post, this is almost as heinous a crime as using the infamous google groups b) complete nonsense, it's actually 2020 -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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| From | Abhiram R <abhi.darkness@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 03:43 +0530 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11854.1405462446.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74494 |
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a) What is "top post"? b)I did correct myself in the next post. Or maybe you missed that. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 15/07/2014 22:35, Abhiram R wrote: > >> Umm..Guido Van Rossum said in Pycon 2014 that Py 2.x would be supported >> only until 2015 :-| So...you know.. you have like an year before you /do >> /have to migrate to 3.x . >> >> -- >> Abhiram.R >> M.Tech CSE (Sem 3) >> RVCE >> Bangalore >> >> >> > a) please don't top post, this is almost as heinous a crime as using the > infamous google groups > b) complete nonsense, it's actually 2020 > > > -- > My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what > you can do for our language. > > Mark Lawrence > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Abhiram.R
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| From | Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 18:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lq4a29$q15$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #74513 |
"Top posting" is the practice of responding to an e-mail thread by putting your response at the top of the text you are quoting. It's standard practice in the corporate world... On 7/15/14, 6:13 PM, Abhiram R wrote: > a) What is "top post"? ...but Unix/newsgroup ettiquette says that it's gauche to do this, because it presents an unacceptable cognitive burden to the user trying to catch the context of the thread by forcing them to read your reply first, before they read the preceding quoted comments. --Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com
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| From | Abhiram R <abhi.darkness@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 04:10 +0530 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11856.1405464072.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74514 |
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> wrote: > "Top posting" is the practice of responding to an e-mail thread by putting > your response at the top of the text you are quoting. It's standard > practice in the corporate world... > > On 7/15/14, 6:13 PM, Abhiram R wrote: > >> a) What is "top post"? >> > > ...but Unix/newsgroup ettiquette says that it's gauche to do this, > because it presents an unacceptable cognitive burden to the user trying to > catch the context of the thread by forcing them to read your reply first, > before they read the preceding quoted comments. > > > --Kevin > -- > Kevin Walzer > Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin > http://www.codebykevin.com > http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Aah. Understood. Apologies for the "noobishness" :) - Abhiram.R
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| From | Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 16:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a4ff7c45-5e66-47d4-9f52-5fa74be9e158@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #74516 |
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 5:40:29 PM UTC-5, Abhiram R wrote: > [snip excessive quotations] > Aah. Understood. Apologies for the "noobishness" :) Noobishness can be tolerated for a "reasonable" time, especially when the "noob" actively seeks to improve his skills, as you are doing, so kudos to you. The next skill to learn, after NOT top posting, is the art of trimming quotations to the most relevant bits. You'll have to use your own judgment for most quoted text, however, if nothing else, be sure to remove any links to the quoted persons web site or blog, and any "famous quotes". Some folks even have software that "blabs" about how great a job it is doing protecting the posters computer (like we really care!), so if you see any taglines that mention "this is a virus free message" (oh thanks, now i can sleep at night!), or some pretentious line about "this was sent from my i-phone" -- send that crap to the bitbucket!
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| From | MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 02:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11858.1405475852.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74518 |
On 2014-07-16 00:53, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 5:40:29 PM UTC-5, Abhiram R wrote: >> [snip excessive quotations] >> Aah. Understood. Apologies for the "noobishness" :) > > Noobishness can be tolerated for a "reasonable" time, especially when > the "noob" actively seeks to improve his skills, as you are doing, so > kudos to you. > > The next skill to learn, after NOT top posting, is the art of > trimming quotations to the most relevant bits. You'll have to use > your own judgment for most quoted text, however, if nothing else, be > sure to remove any links to the quoted persons web site or blog, and > any "famous quotes". > > Some folks even have software that "blabs" about how great a job it > is doing protecting the posters computer (like we really care!), so > if you see any taglines that mention "this is a virus free message" > (oh thanks, now i can sleep at night!), or some pretentious line > about "this was sent from my i-phone" -- send that crap to the > bitbucket! > "This was sent from my iPhone" == "I have an iPhone!" Also annoying is some footnote that says that the email contains confidential information and that if you're not the intended recipient you should delete it, etc. That's somewhat pointless if it's being sent to a public forum!
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| From | Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 20:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <v5ges9tvgdr3vq39rafglqpenmcajc2cil@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #74522 |
MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> wrote: >On 2014-07-16 00:53, Rick Johnson wrote: >> On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 5:40:29 PM UTC-5, Abhiram R wrote: >> >> ...or some pretentious line >> about "this was sent from my i-phone" -- send that crap to the >> bitbucket! >> >"This was sent from my iPhone" == "I have an iPhone!" Please note that iPhones come configured from the factory to say that. Some users probably don't even know it is happening. -- Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-17 13:38 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11909.1405568333.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74605 |
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> wrote: > MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> wrote: >>On 2014-07-16 00:53, Rick Johnson wrote: >>> On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 5:40:29 PM UTC-5, Abhiram R wrote: >>> >>> ...or some pretentious line >>> about "this was sent from my i-phone" -- send that crap to the >>> bitbucket! >>> >>"This was sent from my iPhone" == "I have an iPhone!" > > Please note that iPhones come configured from the factory to say that. Some > users probably don't even know it is happening. The sad thing is, it's on par with the "This email checked by the free version of <some AV program> - this message can be removed in the registered version!" messages you sometimes see. The difference is that with an iphone, you've already paid for it... ChrisA
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| From | Abhiram R <abhi.darkness@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 09:07 +0530 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11860.1405481912.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74518 |
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 5:40:29 PM UTC-5, Abhiram R wrote: > > [snip excessive quotations] > > Aah. Understood. Apologies for the "noobishness" :) > > Noobishness can be tolerated for a "reasonable" time, > especially when the "noob" actively seeks to improve his > skills, as you are doing, so kudos to you. Thank you Rick :) > The next skill to learn, after NOT top posting, is the art > of trimming quotations to the most relevant bits. You'll > have to use your own judgment for most quoted text, however, > if nothing else, be sure to remove any links to the quoted > persons web site or blog, and any "famous quotes". > > > Added to my TIL-list :D > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Abhiram.R
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 09:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11870.1405498721.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74518 |
On 16/07/2014 00:53, Rick Johnson wrote: Another thing that irritates is those people who insist on shouting LIKE THIS throughout their posts. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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| From | Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 12:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11872.1405506053.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74518 |
A little more off-topic: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:57 AM, MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> wrote: > On 2014-07-16 00:53, Rick Johnson wrote: >> Some folks even have software that "blabs" about how great a job it >> is doing […], so if you see […] some pretentious line >> about "this was sent from my i-phone" -- send that crap to the >> bitbucket! >> > "This was sent from my iPhone" == "I have an iPhone!" I personally parse those lines as “sent from my iPhone, which has an on-screen touch keyboard, and it’s harder to type on it”. > Also annoying is some footnote that says that the email contains > confidential information and that if you're not the intended recipient > you should delete it, etc. > > That's somewhat pointless if it's being sent to a public forum! Corporate lawyers for the win! 99.9% of people who send e-mail with this line are forced to do so by their corporation’s legal department. Also, the correct solution for all those is getting a sane client that can hide quotes and signatures. Like Gmail (which defaults to top-posting, but fixing this is one click per message away*). And if someone brings the “people need to download it anyway” argument: it’s 2014, people: hard-drives are large nowadays (or you can just use IMAP) and if you’re paying $100 per kilobyte, you’re doing it wrong and should not be online in the first place. * trickier on mobile, though. -- Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <http://chriswarrick.com/> PGP: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense
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| From | Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> |
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| Date | 2014-07-17 14:17 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11912.1405570637.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74518 |
Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> writes: > Also, the correct solution for all those is getting a sane client that > can hide quotes and signatures. No, there is often useful (or at least interesting) information in a message signature block; the problem is with *some* of them, not all of them. And the problem is that one message presents obnoxious crap to every reader; suggesting that the recipient is the one responsible for avoiding obnoxious behaviour in a public forum is a mistake of ethics. The correct solution to obnoxious crap boilerplate in messages is for the sender to take action to stop generating obnoxious crap boilerplate in messages. And our job is to convince them to implement that solution. -- \ “If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of | `\ danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, | _o__) Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward.” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney
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| From | Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 00:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11857.1405467962.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74514 |
On 15 July 2014 23:40, Abhiram R <abhi.darkness@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> wrote: >> >> ...but Unix/newsgroup ettiquette says that it's gauche to [top post], >> because it presents an unacceptable cognitive burden to the user trying to >> catch the context of the thread by forcing them to read your reply first, >> before they read the preceding quoted comments. > > Aah. Understood. Apologies for the "noobishness" :) Also heinous is the crime of not trimming. A post should contain all of the context needed to understand the reply, in order, and nothing more.
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| From | Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> |
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| Date | 2014-07-17 14:02 +1000 |
| Subject | Interleaved posting style for text discussion forums (was: Python 3 is killing Python) |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11911.1405569768.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74514 |
Abhiram R <abhi.darkness@gmail.com> writes: > Aah. Understood. Apologies for the "noobishness" :) Thanks for understanding. Here is a good explanation of “Interleaved style” <URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style> which is the proper etiquette for text-based discussions. -- \ “I used to be an airline pilot. I got fired because I kept | `\ locking the keys in the plane. They caught me on an 80 foot | _o__) stepladder with a coathanger.” —Steven Wright | Ben Finney
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 23:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11855.1405463934.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74494 |
On 15/07/2014 23:13, Abhiram R wrote: > a) What is "top post"? > b)I did correct myself in the next post. Or maybe you missed that. > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk > <mailto:breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote: > > On 15/07/2014 22:35, Abhiram R wrote: > > Umm..Guido Van Rossum said in Pycon 2014 that Py 2.x would be > supported > only until 2015 :-| So...you know.. you have like an year before > you /do > /have to migrate to 3.x . > > -- > Abhiram.R > M.Tech CSE (Sem 3) > RVCE > Bangalore > > a) please don't top post, this is almost as heinous a crime as using > the infamous google groups > b) complete nonsense, it's actually 2020 > > -- > My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask > what you can do for our language. > > Mark Lawrence > > --- Top posting is the extremely annoying habit of replying to a message at the top instead of at the bottom as I'm doing here, or interspersing your answers in with the related paragraphs. I did see your correction but it gave me an opportunity to mention google groups, something that just can't be missed :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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| From | Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 20:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lq4hrc$9so$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #74515 |
On 7/15/14, 6:38 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I did see your correction but it gave me an opportunity to mention > google groups, something that just can't be missed If the newgroup had a filter to trim out complaints about Google groups, half the traffic would be gone. :-) -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com
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| From | Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 23:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11859.1405479947.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74519 |
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:43:03 -0400, Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com>
declaimed the following:
>On 7/15/14, 6:38 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>> I did see your correction but it gave me an opportunity to mention
>> google groups, something that just can't be missed
>
>If the newgroup had a filter to trim out complaints about Google groups,
>half the traffic would be gone. :-)
That would tend to imply that if it had a filter to trim out posts
/from/ GoogleGroups there would be no traffic left <G>
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
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| From | Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 13:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lq60fj$k9t$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #74525 |
On 2014-07-16, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:43:03 -0400, Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com>
> declaimed the following:
>
>>On 7/15/14, 6:38 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> I did see your correction but it gave me an opportunity to mention
>>> google groups, something that just can't be missed
>>
>>If the newgroup had a filter to trim out complaints about Google groups,
>>half the traffic would be gone. :-)
>
> That would tend to imply that if it had a filter to trim out posts
> /from/ GoogleGroups there would be no traffic left <G>
No need. My slrn configuration does filter out posts from google
groups. So, all I see are the complaints about posts from google
groups -- I haven't figured out how to plonk those...
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Th' MIND is the Pizza
at Palace of th' SOUL
gmail.com
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| From | Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 11:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <753ef4fc-4abd-4128-bc26-63dc309c0b44@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #74486 |
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:31:31 AM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> [...] That said, though, I would advise you to give 2to3 a
> shot. You never know, it might do exactly what you need
> right out-of-the-box and give you a 3.x-compatible
> codebase in one hit.
Ha!
Are you so foolish as to believe that if code runs cleanly
*immediately* after translating via "2to3", that the code is
now completely free from translation bugs?
You act as if 2to3 is some "magical" code that can root out
every bug no matter how subtle. No, for those of us who care
about our reputation, we are not about to release code that
could blow chunks and leave egg all over our face, or worse,
cause us to loose a contract!
> Ultimately, the solution is simply to keep Python 2.7
> around for a good long time, until the carrot of new Py3
> features becomes attractive enough for it to be worth
> switching. And if that's not before 2020, no problem. Even
> if it's after 2020, there's a fair chance that you'll
> still be able to run your 2.7 code -
So in other words, "we're" know now we made a bad decision by
creating this Python3000 thing, because nobody seems to be
jumping on the bandwagon, but instead of admitting we were
wrong, we'll just cling to our new shiny *THING* and hope
*EVENTUALLY*, if we brow-beat *ENOUGH* people, that well,
*MAYBE* most of them will embrace this *ABORTION* and join us.
> it's just that there's no promise (at the moment) of
> patches, even security patches, from python.org.
Oh yes, i see... when brow-beating does not work, we adopt
the malevolent tactics of $MS and $OS by allowing security
holes and virus infections to riddle the code base obsolete.
COME AND GET THE NEXT NEW SHINY RATTLE YOU INFANTS!
MEET THE NEW RATTLE...
SAME AS THE OLD RATTLE...
i pray we don't get fooled again!
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