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| Started by | Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2014-05-28 14:23 -0500 |
| Last post | 2014-05-31 09:28 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 324 — 57 participants |
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Python 3 is killing Python Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 14:23 -0500
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-05-28 21:39 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 22:41 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 12:49 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 14:58 -0500
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-29 03:49 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 21:23 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 06:38 -0500
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 06:15 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 21:24 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-28 23:14 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 15:12 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2014-07-14 23:37 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-14 23:47 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 18:00 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 11:18 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 09:28 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 18:54 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 12:11 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 21:18 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 14:40 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 06:31 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-15 05:41 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2014-07-16 20:18 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 22:15 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-07-17 17:36 +1200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 15:45 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 15:45 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-15 08:05 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-07-15 12:30 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-15 00:59 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-07-15 12:19 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-15 15:50 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-07-15 17:38 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-15 18:23 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-15 16:35 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-29 08:38 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 16:22 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python beliavsky@aol.com - 2014-08-06 06:47 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-06 14:42 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-07 12:42 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-07 13:37 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-08-07 21:07 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-28 21:57 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-05-31 12:07 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-05-31 13:09 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2014-05-31 13:22 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-06-01 04:57 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 13:35 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 21:11 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-06-01 13:38 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2014-06-01 07:01 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-01 07:52 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-06-01 13:41 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-01 12:53 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-01 17:21 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2014-06-02 07:14 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-31 12:30 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-31 08:48 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:01 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-02 16:15 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-02 12:21 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 02:30 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-02 16:52 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-06-02 19:16 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 11:53 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 18:59 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-02 23:12 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 23:30 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-03 09:03 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-06-03 07:22 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 21:58 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-15 00:23 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-15 08:31 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 21:47 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 14:20 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 14:17 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 23:00 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2014-07-15 09:57 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 00:31 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-15 20:38 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-15 19:06 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-15 23:01 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 03:51 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 14:20 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 07:33 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 08:52 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 16:26 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 09:44 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 16:50 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 00:11 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 07:49 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 18:44 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 11:35 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 21:54 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 13:46 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-16 12:10 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 22:55 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 06:10 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 16:11 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 06:22 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 00:04 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 17:39 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 01:23 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 18:48 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 02:07 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-16 19:20 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-17 02:51 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 13:15 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-17 12:27 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-07-17 07:18 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-17 07:49 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 14:31 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-16 17:02 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-16 18:47 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-07-16 16:27 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 15:41 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 00:00 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 18:16 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-17 03:14 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 08:17 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 12:49 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 20:34 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-18 14:17 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 13:20 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 23:54 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-17 03:16 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 21:47 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 12:12 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 21:12 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 11:15 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 04:27 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-17 21:44 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 19:24 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 12:39 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 21:40 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-18 08:24 +0300
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 08:34 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-18 14:19 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 08:35 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> - 2014-07-18 17:25 +0200
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-18 19:45 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 20:06 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-07-17 12:22 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-17 21:37 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-17 17:30 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-17 20:13 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-18 18:38 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 01:26 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 12:54 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> - 2014-07-17 19:45 -0500
Re: Python 3 is killing Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 13:01 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 16:45 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 12:15 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 20:37 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 15:34 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 02:21 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 18:27 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-18 16:46 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 16:49 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 16:50 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 17:22 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-18 21:27 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-18 21:21 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 09:29 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 02:41 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 12:00 -0600
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 13:39 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 09:13 +1000
Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-19 16:45 -0400
Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 18:31 -0700
Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 11:42 +1000
Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-20 12:40 +0100
Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-20 17:52 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 18:22 -0700
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 11:32 +1000
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-20 23:49 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 10:55 +1000
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-20 23:28 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 13:34 +1000
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-21 05:00 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-21 13:00 -0700
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 20:56 +1000
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-21 14:30 -0400
Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 04:35 +1000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 15:50 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-19 19:23 -0400
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 09:10 +1000
Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-21 02:54 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 08:24 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-18 18:20 +0000
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-18 19:31 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-07-18 20:44 +0100
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 14:37 -0700
Re: Python 3 is killing Python Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-07-18 18:09 -0400
Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-19 07:28 +0000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2014-07-19 11:08 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-19 14:31 -0400
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-20 01:23 +0000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 11:39 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2014-07-19 18:53 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] CHIN Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 08:37 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 14:18 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 07:50 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 09:19 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 10:41 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2014-07-19 18:24 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] TP <wingusr@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 19:03 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2014-07-19 20:10 -0700
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-08-01 13:10 +0200
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 21:22 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-01 15:19 +0300
Re: Python and IDEs Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 22:30 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-01 23:10 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 23:30 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-01 18:13 +0300
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-08-06 14:38 +0200
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-06 22:51 +1000
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-08-11 11:08 +0200
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Nicholas Cole <nicholas.cole@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 15:28 +0100
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-08-06 14:47 +0200
Re: Python and IDEs [was Re: Python 3 is killing Python] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-07 13:32 +1000
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 14:40 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11827.1405401368.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74463 |
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, July 14, 2014 9:11:47 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >> I dunno. It's not like Great Britain, Australia, or New >> Zealand did anything significant in either war, is it. > > Most of Europe occupied, London bombed into the stone age; > things were looking grim Chris! Maybe you should read up on > some WW2 history, it's quite humbling to think what *could* > have happened. Yeah, because nobody managed to do anything during all that time, the Royal Air Force was nowhere to be seen, and the various Resistances in occupied countries were completely ineffectual. >> Some people in Australia are still racist, but racism is >> nothing like the problem it is in America, where you boast >> so much of equality. > > Where do you get your info about America, from CNN? And for > someone who is a self-described "Aussie" you sure seem to > know more about Americans than Americans know about > themselves... hmm, another enigma! No... I have friends who are America experts. Actually, when I say friends... they're more like family really. I don't want to scare you, they can be a little bit inappropriate... and loud... and heavy. Really, morbidly obese. I'm talking about the genuine article here, and I converse with them on a daily basis. And this is distinctly off-topic for this list. Talk about Python or drop the issue, it really isn't as significant as you think it is. ChrisA
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| From | Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 06:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11828.1405401394.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74463 |
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Yes, we all know that Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, school shootings and the lack of proper health care for all are the pinnacle of US culture. Or figments of the imagination of Baghdad Bob. Now, maybe return to Python? /martin On 15 Jul 2014, Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote: >On Monday, July 14, 2014 9:11:47 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >> I dunno. It's not like Great Britain, Australia, or New >> Zealand did anything significant in either war, is it. > >Most of Europe occupied, London bombed into the stone age; >things were looking grim Chris! Maybe you should read up on >some WW2 history, it's quite humbling to think what *could* >have happened. > >> Some people in Australia are still racist, but racism is >> nothing like the problem it is in America, where you boast >> so much of equality. > >Where do you get your info about America, from CNN? And for >someone who is a self-described "Aussie" you sure seem to >know more about Americans than Americans know about >themselves... hmm, another enigma! > >Chris, one thing you need to understand about America is >that a whole grievance industry exists to perpetuate hate. >And sadly, most Americans are too stupid to realize this. > >You see, a divided people are not going to cause the rulers >any troubles because they are too busy fighting amongst >themselves -- the same effect is employed in prison >populations to protect the guards. > >In ancient Rome, the Caesars used games and bread to control >the masses, today, they use the grievance industry and, for >the complete moronic zombies, sporting events. > >All "isms" and social problems just boil down to hate. And >since you can never remove hate from the heart of man, you >will *NEVER* solve these issues. The best you can hope for >is to reduce the levels a bit via "intelligent interventions". > >So in short, none of these issues will ever be solved until >people realize who the real enemy is -> themselves. > > MIRROR, MIRROR, ON THE WALL, WHO'S THE MOST JUDGMENTAL > OF THEM ALL? > >============================================================ > The origins of xenophobia: >============================================================ > >In order to defeat our own hatred of others, we must >circumvent our per-programmed primal fears, which is not >easy to do, and while these fears play a vital survival role >in *early* development of both the *individuals* of a group >AND the group itself, in modern times, these fears have >become a crutch preventing humans from evolving socially. > > HENCE THE GRIEVANCE INDUSTRY PERPETRATED BY A MEDIA > CIRCUS THAT WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET RATINGS! > > ==================== > THOUGHT EXPERIMENT > ==================== > > Imagine your a small kitten: innocent, carefree, and full > of curiosity! You love exploring the world, stuffing > yourself into boxes, climbing to high places, and chasing > balls of strings -- ah what a life! > > You see your siblings and notice they have fur like you , > and whiskers like you, and paws and tails and blah like > you. And you are comfortable because these other > "lifeforms" resemble you, and so you consider them to be > "safe". > > Then one day, whilst frolicking in the backyard, you see a > glimmer from under a log, ooh, whats this you ask > rhetorically...? > > So you get closer to inspect, and you see two eyes, and > you think, hmm, it has two eyes just like my bothers and > sisters so it must be safe...! > > And so you get yet closer, but just then you start to > notice some differences, whoa, this thing has no fur, it > has no paws, and no whiskers, and it has strange patterns > on it's back and it's making a rattling noise, oh well, no > need to let fear get in my way, i'll just go over and > introduce myself... AND THAT WAS THE END OF "FLUFFY THE > KITTEN"! > > MEOW! > >You see, since hate is merely an extrapolation of >xenophobia, which is itself a per-programmed reflex utilized >unconsciously to protect an organism from self destruction >via *utter* ignorance of dangerous predators, we are >fighting a losing battle when we expect the vast majority of >earths "intelligent" inhabitants, of which most are >zombie-fied *idiots*, to violate their own source code. > > JUST GO GRAB A BEER AND WATCH THE GAME YOU BEER-BELLIED FOOL! > >PS: That was a "general" you, not to be taken as a literal >statement to Chris. -- Sent with K-@ Mail - the evolution of emailing.
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 05:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <53c4bf09$0$2746$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #74463 |
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:18:05 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote: > London bombed into the stone age Sigh. How can one even begin to answer a statement of such ignorance? For what little it is worth, if any one country won World War Two, it was the USSR. I don't recall the exact numbers off the top of my head, but while the Brits and Americans were having a relatively easy time of it fighting the second-best German soldiers, the best, and by far the majority, of the German armed forces were on the Eastern Front engaged in the biggest, fiercest, most brutal battles of the war, bar none. The Soviets destroyed the German airforce, smashed their tank battalions, bled their armies dry, then steamrolled over Eastern Europe, East Germany, and Berlin. The Western Front was, in comparison, a school picnic. One can understand why, following WW2, the western powers formed NATO and were so worried about the Red Army that they invited the Germans to join. -- Steven
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| From | Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 20:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <tufes9htt17tvcp3pgho4k6catv3pr7coe@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #74469 |
Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> wrote: > >For what little it is worth, if any one country won World War Two, it was >the USSR. I don't think that's quite accurate. It is certainly true that the USSR suffered vastly more casualties than any participant in the war, essentially losing one entire generation of young men. It is also true that the USSR faced the Germans head-on for longer than any other combatant. But it is is not at all clear that the USSR could have defeated Germany on its own. The enormous industrial capacity of the United States was an extremely significant factor that helped turn the tide in what otherwise would have been an ugly war of attrition, much like WWI. -- Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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| From | Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-16 22:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <89295cdd-ee8e-4f26-8039-a6b1fe56494d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #74602 |
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:18:56 PM UTC-5, Tim Roberts wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >For what little it is worth, if any one country won World War Two, it was
> >the USSR.
> I don't think that's quite accurate. It is certainly true
> that the USSR suffered vastly more casualties than any
> participant in the war, essentially losing one entire
> generation of young men. It is also true that the USSR
> faced the Germans head-on for longer than any other
> combatant. But it is is not at all clear that the USSR
> could have defeated Germany on its own. The enormous
> industrial capacity of the United States was an extremely
> significant factor that helped turn the tide in what
> otherwise would have been an ugly war of attrition, much
> like WWI.
I've been wresting with my decision to "correct Steven"
every since he posted this bombastic statement of his,
because, the *real* history of WW2 tells quite a different
story than our friend Steven would like us to believe.
Heck, after suffering terrible casualties, even the "godless
tyrant" Stalin was so scared of losing the war, that he
released the priests and ministers from the gulags and
allowed the shrines to circulate around Moscow again. Ha, the
only time a godless man seeks god is on his death bed, and
Stalin was scared to death!
And then Stevens comments about how "tough" the Russian army
was because they "steamrolled" Germany and most of Europe --
obviously he has no capacity to distinguish between
"honorable warfare" and complete "barbarism".
*ANY* army can rape/kill women and children and raise peasant
villages to the ground! Look, i understand the Russians
earned some "payback", but not *all* forms of warfare can be
justified *even* after the horrendous losses they suffered!
The enemy was the third-Reich, not innocent German/Polish civilians!
In fact, the atrocities committed by the Russians were only
eclipsed by the SS.
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| From | Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> |
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| Date | 2014-07-17 17:36 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <c2p5n9Fk0j4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #74615 |
Rick Johnson wrote: > *ANY* army can rape/kill women and children and raise peasant > villages to the ground! So... the villages were underground before? -- Greg
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-17 15:45 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11917.1405578113.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74617 |
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote: > Rick Johnson wrote: >> >> *ANY* army can rape/kill women and children and raise peasant >> villages to the ground! > > > So... the villages were underground before? *high five* We had the same thought. ChrisA
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-17 15:45 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11914.1405575915.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74615 |
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote: > *ANY* army can rape/kill women and children and raise peasant > villages to the ground! That would be "raze", unless those villages grow like potatoes. ChrisA
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 08:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11830.1405407914.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74463 |
On 15/07/2014 05:40, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Rick Johnson > <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, because nobody managed to do anything during all that time, the > Royal Air Force was nowhere to be seen, and the various Resistances in > occupied countries were completely ineffectual. > Some might like to know that some US guys gave up their passports to fight with the RAF. The most successful squadron during the Battle of Britain was 303 which was Polish flyers. Apparently they were brilliant having learnt their trade flying biplanes against Messerschmitt BF109s. 1940 invasion of Britain? No chance, we took years building the moat we call the English Channel. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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| From | alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 12:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n99xv.167415$YB.152878@fx28.am4> |
| In reply to | #74463 |
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:18:05 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Monday, July 14, 2014 9:11:47 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >> I dunno. It's not like Great Britain, Australia, or New Zealand did >> anything significant in either war, is it. > > Most of Europe occupied, London bombed into the stone age; things were > looking grim Chris! Maybe you should read up on some WW2 history, it's > quite humbling to think what *could* have happened. Perhaps you should read history more thoroughly. Great Britain had successfully fended off German plans to invade BEFORE the USA joined the war (Google Battle of Britain). Had we failed there would have been nowhere available to launch the 'D' Day landings & the USSR would almost certainly have rolled over the whole of Europe. so contrary to the much held belief by Americans that they saved or bottoms in WWII the opposite is in fact the case. > >> Some people in Australia are still racist, but racism is nothing like >> the problem it is in America, where you boast so much of equality. > > Where do you get your info about America, from CNN? And for someone who > is a self-described "Aussie" you sure seem to know more about Americans > than Americans know about themselves... hmm, another enigma! I guarantee he knows more about he USA than the average Ammerican knows about Australia or anywhere outside their own border, I once had an American ask what state London was in (& we are quite a big part of your history)! > > Chris, one thing you need to understand about America is that a whole > grievance industry exists to perpetuate hate. > And sadly, most Americans are too stupid to realize this. Now that is the 1st thing you have read that I agree with 100% -- You'll never see all the places, or read all the books, but fortunately, they're not all recommended.
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 00:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11814.1405382383.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74437 |
On 15/07/2014 00:28, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Rick Johnson > <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Image, for a moment, a world WITHOUT the great USA! > > "Imagine". If you were worth the effort, I could easily "image" a > world without the USA, by Photoshopping something out of a world map. > (I'd probably use the Gimp, or Pike's image manipulation libraries, > but everyone knows what Photoshopping is.) > No more World Series in sport. No more hunting for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. No more big mouthed Yanks who insist that they won WWII despite the fact that as usual they didn't bother turning up at the start. And apart from that... -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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| From | alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 12:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p%8xv.167321$YB.106983@fx28.am4> |
| In reply to | #74437 |
> > Image, for a moment, a world WITHOUT the great USA! Yes, i know you > little commies love to curse the USA, and yes, > there are many dark sins committed within AND beyond her borders, but > try to tell me you bass-turds, what nation in modern history has > contributed more technological achievements [1] The one you revolted from. The Same one that is your first port of call for assistance whenever you get yourselves involved in conflict. I think you will find that more inventions have originated on this desolate windswept island of the north coast of Europe than the USA. We are called Great Britain, the clue is in the name. -- Charm is a way of getting the answer "Yes" -- without having asked any clear question.
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| From | MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 15:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11839.1405437492.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74477 |
On 2014-07-15 13:19, alister wrote: >> >> Image, for a moment, a world WITHOUT the great USA! Yes, i know >> you little commies love to curse the USA, and yes, there are many >> dark sins committed within AND beyond her borders, but try to tell >> me you bass-turds, what nation in modern history has contributed >> more technological achievements [1] > > The one you revolted from. The Same one that is your first port of > call for assistance whenever you get yourselves involved in > conflict. > > I think you will find that more inventions have originated on this > desolate windswept island of the north coast of Europe than the USA. > I'd say it's more north-west than north. > We are called Great Britain, the clue is in the name. > "Great Britain" is the name of the largest island in the "British Isles".
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| From | alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 17:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <QGdxv.225637$tQ7.222278@fx09.am4> |
| In reply to | #74488 |
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:50:46 +0100, MRAB wrote: > On 2014-07-15 13:19, alister wrote: >>> >>> Image, for a moment, a world WITHOUT the great USA! Yes, i know you >>> little commies love to curse the USA, and yes, there are many dark >>> sins committed within AND beyond her borders, but try to tell me you >>> bass-turds, what nation in modern history has contributed more >>> technological achievements [1] >> >> The one you revolted from. The Same one that is your first port of call >> for assistance whenever you get yourselves involved in conflict. >> >> I think you will find that more inventions have originated on this >> desolate windswept island of the north coast of Europe than the USA. >> > I'd say it's more north-west than north. Doesn't roll of the tongue as well though > >> We are called Great Britain, the clue is in the name. >> > "Great Britain" is the name of the largest island in the "British > Isles". Never let the facts get in the way of a good punchline :-) -- The one day you'd sell your soul for something, souls are a glut.
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| From | Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 18:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lq3ria$920$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #74495 |
On 2014-07-15, alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Never let the facts get in the way of a good punchline :-)
Ah!
That explains it!
The Iraq war must have been a _joke_. It sure went over my head...
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! My Aunt MAUREEN was a
at military advisor to IKE &
gmail.com TINA TURNER!!
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-15 16:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.11841.1405438544.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #74477 |
On 15/07/2014 13:19, alister wrote: >> >> Image, for a moment, a world WITHOUT the great USA! Yes, i know you >> little commies love to curse the USA, and yes, >> there are many dark sins committed within AND beyond her borders, but >> try to tell me you bass-turds, what nation in modern history has >> contributed more technological achievements [1] > > I think you will find that more inventions have originated on this > desolate windswept island of the north coast of Europe than the USA. > Like the technology that was used to break the sound barrier? Handed to the Yanks in a deal that they promptly broke but refused to hand the technology back. Special relationship, yep, they were kind enough to give us 60 years to pay off the loans we took out during WWII. As Aurthur Daley used to say "nice little earner". -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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| From | Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> |
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| Date | 2014-05-29 08:38 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.10427.1401316716.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #72184 |
Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> writes: > No company that I work for is using python 3 - they just have too much > of an investment in a python 2 code base to switch. There are many large companies still using FORTRAN and COBOL because of a large investment in those languages, which are far more outdated than Python 2. What's your point? > I'm just saying. Ah, so no point that you're willing to defend, then. -- \ “Books and opinions, no matter from whom they came, if they are | `\ in opposition to human rights, are nothing but dead letters.” | _o__) —Ernestine Rose | Ben Finney
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| From | Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 16:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7xmwe18p56.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> |
| In reply to | #72198 |
Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> writes: > There are many large companies still using FORTRAN and COBOL because of > a large investment in those languages, which are far more outdated than > Python 2. What's your point? I think some of us see Python 2 as perfectly fine--we've looked into Python 3 and found some minor improvements along with some minor breakage, and figure it's not worth the cognitive burden of switching from something that already works, even if Python 3 is slightly better in the scheme of things. While I'm sure it will change over time, I currently don't actually know anyone using Python 3 even for new projects. I know *of* people using Python 3 including here on this newsgroup, but I'm currently not personally acquainted with any of them.
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| From | beliavsky@aol.com |
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| Date | 2014-08-06 06:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <88649f2d-76c2-41af-a509-23486bd06dff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #72198 |
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:38:22 PM UTC-4, Ben Finney wrote: > Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> writes: > > > > > No company that I work for is using python 3 - they just have too much > > > of an investment in a python 2 code base to switch. > > > > There are many large companies still using FORTRAN and COBOL because of > > a large investment in those languages, which are far more outdated than > > Python 2. What's your point? Fortran compiler vendors such as Intel, IBM, Oracle/SUN and open source projects such as gfortran are updating their compilers to the Fortran 2003 and 2008 standards while also keeping the ability to compile all the old Fortran code. FORTRAN 77 programmers and programs will not be forced to move to modern Fortran, but I'm not sure that Python 2.x users can be as confident that Python 2.x will be supported on future operating systems.
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| From | Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> |
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| Date | 2014-08-06 14:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.12707.1407350602.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #75802 |
On 8/6/2014 9:47 AM, beliavsky@aol.com.dmarc.invalid wrote: > Fortran compiler vendors such as Intel, IBM, Oracle/SUN and open *Vendors* sell compilers for money, which they can then use to *pay* people to do unfun stuff that volunteers don't want and should not have to do. Actually, I am beginning to think that 2.7 should be split off for 3.x development and charged for. > source projects such as gfortran are updating their compilers to the > Fortran 2003 and 2008 standards while also keeping the ability to > compile all the old Fortran code. FORTRAN 77 programmers and programs According to https://gcc.gnu.org/fortran/ , gfortran is a standard Fortran 95 compiler with legacy (F77) support where practical and 'significant' F2003 and F2008 support. Since it is free, one takes what one gets. In multiple ways, Gfortran, as a whole, is significantly simpler to develop than Python. It is an alternate front end to the gcc compiler (a very smart decision). The GNU projects distributes source code, which I presume consists of C code aimed at the GCC compiler. > will not be forced to move to modern Fortran, but I'm not sure that > Python 2.x users can be as confident that Python 2.x will be > supported on future operating systems. It will be for as long as 2.x users are willing to pay for support. -- Terry Jan Reedy
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