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  IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 03:43 -0700
    Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 13:50 +0300
      Re: IDE for python Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 18:46 +0700
        Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 05:56 -0700
          Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 06:01 -0700
            Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 15:36 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-29 08:09 +0000
            Re: IDE for python Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-29 08:32 +0000
      Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:55 +1000
        Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-28 08:38 -0700
          Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-06-02 07:28 +0000
          Re: IDE for python Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-06-02 09:15 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 10:02 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 19:15 +1000
          Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-06-02 10:10 +0000
          Re: IDE for python Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-06-02 11:43 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 13:11 +0100
      Re: IDE for python Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 08:13 +0700
      Programmer's text editor, for Python and everything else (was: IDE for python) Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-29 12:51 +1000
    答复: IDE for python "cheng.li" <scrappedprince.li@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 18:51 +0800
    Re: IDE for python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-28 11:03 +0000
    Re: IDE for python Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina.rakotomandimby@rktmb.org> - 2014-05-28 13:51 +0300
      Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 04:31 -0700
        Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:00 +1000
        Re: IDE for python "prashanth B.G" <prash.bg@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 17:41 +0530
        Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 13:35 +0100
          Re: IDE for python Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 06:27 -0700
        Re: IDE for python Joseph Martinot-Lagarde <joseph.martinot-lagarde@m4x.org> - 2014-06-04 02:12 +0200
    Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 21:33 +1000
    Re: IDE for python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-28 13:04 +0000
      Re: IDE for python "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-05-29 00:12 +0100
        Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 18:02 +1000
    Re: IDE for python William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2014-05-28 08:47 -0400
    Re: IDE for python Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 09:25 -0500
    Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-05-28 18:24 +0200
      Re: IDE for python "Ernest Bonat, Ph.D." <ernest.bonat@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 10:24 -0700
    Re: IDE for python Deb Wyatt <codemonkey@inbox.com> - 2014-05-28 09:39 -0800
    Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 12:10 -0700
    Re: IDE for python Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-29 08:13 +1000
    Re: IDE for python Wolfgang Maier <wolfgang.maier@biologie.uni-freiburg.de> - 2014-05-29 11:41 +0200
    Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-29 12:39 -0400
      Re: IDE for python Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 17:44 +0100
        Re: IDE for python Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 15:11 -0500
          Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 21:41 +0100
          Re: IDE for python alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-30 12:23 +0000
        Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 05:53 -0700
          Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-30 16:54 +0300
            Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 07:04 -0700
              Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 08:06 -0700
                Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 09:15 -0700
                  Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-30 12:37 -0400
                    Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 09:40 -0700
                  Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 17:38 +0100
                    Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 10:07 -0700
                      Re: IDE for python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 18:27 +0100
                      Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 18:48 -0700
                        Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-06-01 00:38 -0700
                        Re: IDE for python Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-01 10:58 +0300
                          Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 18:31 +1000
                            Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 01:52 -0700
                            Re: IDE for python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-01 09:06 +0000
                              Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 19:59 +1000
                    Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-31 01:46 -0700
                  Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 10:17 -0700
                    Re: IDE for python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 10:30 -0700
                      Re: IDE for python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-30 11:43 -0700
            Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-30 11:46 -0400
          Re: IDE for python "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-06-01 00:17 +0100
    Re: IDE for python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 02:51 +1000
    Re: IDE for python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-29 16:45 -0400
    Re: IDE for python Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-30 07:05 +1000
    Re: IDE for python Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 15:40 -0700
      Re: IDE for python Andrea D'Amore <anddamNOALPASTICCIODICARNE+gruppi@brapi.net> - 2014-05-30 09:21 +0200
        Re: IDE for python Andrea D'Amore <anddamNOALPASTICCIODICARNE+gruppi@brapi.net> - 2014-05-30 11:04 +0200

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#72145 — IDE for python

Hello everyone,

I am new to python.

I am currently using python 3.3

With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.

Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

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#72146

Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com>:

> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

emacs


Marko

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#72158

> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.

Anything that writes text is fine.
I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use
Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by
default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about it.

Greg

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#72160

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:16:41 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Schroeder wrote:
> > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
> 
> 
> 
> Anything that writes text is fine.
> 
> I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use
> 
> Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by
> 
> default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about it.
> 
> 
> 
> Greg

Right now I am looking for ide on windows 7 platform.

Actually, I shouldn't say this, But I am bit use to intellisense and on go warnings and error and my text editor (Notepad) doesn't provide me that feature  .

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#72161

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:26:46 PM UTC+5:30, Sameer Rathoud wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:16:41 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Schroeder wrote:
> 
> > > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Anything that writes text is fine.
> 
> > 
> 
> > I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use
> 
> > 
> 
> > Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by
> 
> > 
> 
> > default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about it.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Greg
> 
> 
> 
> Right now I am looking for ide on windows 7 platform.
> 
> 
> 
> Actually, I shouldn't say this, But I am bit use to intellisense and on go warnings and error and my text editor (Notepad) doesn't provide me that feature  .

one more query, do we have any add-in available for python on visual studio 2010  

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#72167

On 28/05/2014 14:01, Sameer Rathoud wrote:

I've had to snip umpteen lines that gg has added so *please* use the 
mailing list https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or 
read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to 
prevent us seeing double line spacing and single line paragraphs, thanks.

> one more query, do we have any add-in available for python on visual studio 2010
>

Python Tools for Visual Studio here http://pytools.codeplex.com/ but I 
don't think it supports the express edition.

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#72227

Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:16:41 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Schroeder wrote:
>> > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anything that writes text is fine.
>> 
>> I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use
>> 
>> Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by
>> 
>> default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Greg
> 
> Right now I am looking for ide on windows 7 platform.
> 
> Actually, I shouldn't say this, But I am bit use to intellisense and
> on go warnings and error and my text editor (Notepad) doesn't provide
> me that feature  . 

If you are used to Visual Studio then you could try PTVS. I have no 
experience of it, but http://pytools.codeplex.com/

> PTVS is a free, open source plugin that turns Visual Studio into a
> Python IDE. 
> 
> PTVS supports CPython, IronPython, editing, browsing, Intellisense,
> mixed Python/C++ debugging, remote linux/MacOS debugging, profiling,
> IPython, Django, and cloud computing with client libraries for
> Windows, Linux and MacOS.  
> 
> Designed, developed, and supported by Microsoft and the community.


-- 
Duncan Booth

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#72229

Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Sameer Rathoud <sameer.rathoud@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:16:41 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Schroeder wrote:
>>> > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anything that writes text is fine.
>>> 
>>> I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use
>>> 
>>> Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by
>>> 
>>> default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Greg
>> 
>> Right now I am looking for ide on windows 7 platform.
>> 
>> Actually, I shouldn't say this, But I am bit use to intellisense and
>> on go warnings and error and my text editor (Notepad) doesn't provide
>> me that feature  . 
> 
> If you are used to Visual Studio then you could try PTVS. I have no 
> experience of it, but http://pytools.codeplex.com/
> 
>> PTVS is a free, open source plugin that turns Visual Studio into a
>> Python IDE. 
>> 
>> PTVS supports CPython, IronPython, editing, browsing, Intellisense,
>> mixed Python/C++ debugging, remote linux/MacOS debugging, profiling,
>> IPython, Django, and cloud computing with client libraries for
>> Windows, Linux and MacOS.  
>> 
>> Designed, developed, and supported by Microsoft and the community.
> 
> 
I'm just watching the video from that page. It is impressive just how much 
of intellisense they have working with PTVS: for example inside a function 
doing 'find all references' on a local variable that happens to be a method 
passed in to the function shows you all def lines for methods that are 
passed as parameters. There's a heck of a lot of type inferencing going on.


-- 
Duncan Booth

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#72159

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
>
> Anything that writes text is fine.
> I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use
> Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by
> default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about it.

No. Don't use Notepad for anything! It's easy enough to get a better
editor. Among its other faults, Notepad:

1) Has problems with LF line endings (they vanish, and you have hugely
long lines)
2) Puts three junk bytes onto the beginning of a file that it
considers saved as UTF-8
3) Doesn't understand coding cookies, and will happily save something
in a different encoding like CP-1252 (which it calls "ANSI")
4) Guesses encodings on load, giving rise to the famous "Bush hid the
facts" trick - although this is unlikely to be a problem with
something of decent size
5) Has issues with large files - or at least, it did last time I
tried; this may no longer be true with Windows 7/8

Default text editors on the Linux distros I've used have been far
better, but still less than ideal. With Debian Squeeze, I got a gedit
that bugged me in several ways, which is what pushed me onto SciTE.
You can certainly start coding with gedit, though. The issues that I
had with it were relating to heavy-duty usage that I do, where I'm
basically spending an entire day delving into code and moving stuff
around. These days, though, I'd rather have one editor on both the
platforms I use (Windows and Linux, each in multiple variants), as it
allows me to share configs and comfortable keystrokes. There are
plenty of cross-platform editors to choose from.

So, I agree with your analysis, as regards gedit ("know exactly what
you don't like about it"). If it doesn't bug you, use it. But if
Notepad doesn't bug you, *still don't use it*, because it's like
driving a car that isn't structurally sound. It might not be you that
gets hurt by it... or it might not be for quite a while that you see
the problems... but the pain will happen.

ChrisA

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#72169

Le mercredi 28 mai 2014 14:55:35 UTC+2, Chris Angelico a écrit :
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
> 
> >
> 
> > Anything that writes text is fine.
> 
> > I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use
> 
> > Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by
> 
> > default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about it.
> 
> 
> 
> No. Don't use Notepad for anything! It's easy enough to get a better
> 
> editor. Among its other faults, Notepad:
> 
> 
> 
> 1) Has problems with LF line endings (they vanish, and you have hugely
> 
> long lines)
> 
> 2) Puts three junk bytes onto the beginning of a file that it
> 
> considers saved as UTF-8
> 
> 3) Doesn't understand coding cookies, and will happily save something
> 
> in a different encoding like CP-1252 (which it calls "ANSI")
> 
> 4) Guesses encodings on load, giving rise to the famous "Bush hid the
> 
> facts" trick - although this is unlikely to be a problem with
> 
> something of decent size
> 
> 5) Has issues with large files - or at least, it did last time I
> 
> tried; this may no longer be true with Windows 7/8
> 
> 
> 
> Default text editors on the Linux distros I've used have been far
> 
> better, but still less than ideal. With Debian Squeeze, I got a gedit
> 
> that bugged me in several ways, which is what pushed me onto SciTE.
> 
> You can certainly start coding with gedit, though. The issues that I
> 
> had with it were relating to heavy-duty usage that I do, where I'm
> 
> basically spending an entire day delving into code and moving stuff
> 
> around. These days, though, I'd rather have one editor on both the
> 
> platforms I use (Windows and Linux, each in multiple variants), as it
> 
> allows me to share configs and comfortable keystrokes. There are
> 
> plenty of cross-platform editors to choose from.
> 
> 
> 
> So, I agree with your analysis, as regards gedit ("know exactly what
> 
> you don't like about it"). If it doesn't bug you, use it. But if
> 
> Notepad doesn't bug you, *still don't use it*, because it's like
> 
> driving a car that isn't structurally sound. It might not be you that
> 
> gets hurt by it... or it might not be for quite a while that you see
> 
> the problems... but the pain will happen.
> 
> 
> 
> ChrisA

========

Amen.
Ite missa est.

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#72396

 <wxjmfauth <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> Amen.
> Ite missa est.
> 

Oh, why all the lamenting about python's unicode support, when your latin is
so superbe ! Elegant solution to all your problems :)

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#72398

On 02/06/2014 08:28, Wolfgang Maier wrote:
>  <wxjmfauth <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
>>
>> Amen.
>> Ite missa est.
>>
> 
> Oh, why all the lamenting about python's unicode support, when your latin is
> so superbe ! Elegant solution to all your problems :)

After all, if you can't use Latin-1 for Latin, what can you use it for?

TJG

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#72399

On 02/06/2014 09:15, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 02/06/2014 08:28, Wolfgang Maier wrote:
>>   <wxjmfauth <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> Amen.
>>> Ite missa est.
>>>
>>
>> Oh, why all the lamenting about python's unicode support, when your latin is
>> so superbe ! Elegant solution to all your problems :)
>
> After all, if you can't use Latin-1 for Latin, what can you use it for?
>
> TJG
>

What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"?

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#72401

On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"?

Google Translate says:

Eusebius, et revertatur in domum perito resident.

ChrisA

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#72403

Chris Angelico <rosuav <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy <at>
yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"?
> 
> Google Translate says:
> 
> Eusebius, et revertatur in domum perito resident.
> 
> ChrisA
> 

Oh, the joys of Google Translate.
Round-tripping this through French (as wxjm may do) back to English I get:
Eusebius, and return to their seat in the house experience

I'd translate it roughly as:

I domum, perite omnipräsens unicodicis!

but my last (school) use of Latin is many years back.

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#72404

On 02/06/2014 10:15, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"?
> 
> Google Translate says:
> 
> Eusebius, et revertatur in domum perito resident.
> 
> ChrisA
> 

Try:

Perite domestice unicodicis: vade in domum tuam

[from a friend of mine who manages to combine expertise in historical
writings and competence in Unicode]

TJG

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#72408

On 02/06/2014 11:43, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 02/06/2014 10:15, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"?
>>
>> Google Translate says:
>>
>> Eusebius, et revertatur in domum perito resident.
>>
>> ChrisA
>>
>
> Try:
>
> Perite domestice unicodicis: vade in domum tuam
>
> [from a friend of mine who manages to combine expertise in historical
> writings and competence in Unicode]
>
> TJG
>

Surely that'll give a syntax error as the indentation is incorrect, 
there's no except: clause and the comment should be in quotes, not 
square brackets???

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#72207

On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 22:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
> >
> > Anything that writes text is fine.
> > I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use
> > Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by
> > default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about it.
> 
> No. Don't use Notepad for anything! It's easy enough to get a better
> editor. Among its other faults, Notepad:
> 
> 1) Has problems with LF line endings (they vanish, and you have hugely
> long lines)
> 2) Puts three junk bytes onto the beginning of a file that it
> considers saved as UTF-8
> 3) Doesn't understand coding cookies, and will happily save something
> in a different encoding like CP-1252 (which it calls "ANSI")
> 4) Guesses encodings on load, giving rise to the famous "Bush hid the
> facts" trick - although this is unlikely to be a problem with
> something of decent size
> 5) Has issues with large files - or at least, it did last time I
> tried; this may no longer be true with Windows 7/8
> 
> Default text editors on the Linux distros I've used have been far
> better, but still less than ideal. With Debian Squeeze, I got a gedit
> that bugged me in several ways, which is what pushed me onto SciTE.
> You can certainly start coding with gedit, though. The issues that I
> had with it were relating to heavy-duty usage that I do, where I'm
> basically spending an entire day delving into code and moving stuff
> around. These days, though, I'd rather have one editor on both the
> platforms I use (Windows and Linux, each in multiple variants), as it
> allows me to share configs and comfortable keystrokes. There are
> plenty of cross-platform editors to choose from.
> 
> So, I agree with your analysis, as regards gedit ("know exactly what
> you don't like about it"). If it doesn't bug you, use it. But if
> Notepad doesn't bug you, *still don't use it*, because it's like
> driving a car that isn't structurally sound. It might not be you that
> gets hurt by it... or it might not be for quite a while that you see
> the problems... but the pain will happen.
> 
> ChrisA
Well, learn something new every day. Any gripes against vim with some
tweaks?
Greg

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#72210 — Programmer's text editor, for Python and everything else (was: IDE for python)

Greg Schroeder <gmschroeder@gmail.com> writes:

> Any gripes against vim with some tweaks?

None from me; Vim is a fine programming (and programmable) editor.

It is free software, like Python. This is vital for any tool in which
one expects to sink an amount of effort. It means no party has
privileged access to change it, which ensures that (unlike proprietary
software) it will never be held hostage to one party's disinterest or
whim.

It works the same way on all important operating systems today that
programmers will use to write programs. This is, of course, a result of
it being free software; anyone motivated to improve the software on a
particular platform has full freedom to do so, and return the
improvements to the community.

It is mature and highly flexible, both of which mean it can handle any
important programming task once someone puts in the effort to configure
it. And it has a thriving community, which means most of what you want
customised has already been done by others.

It supports a massive range of text editing tasks, most of which you
don't need to know but will be there when your programming tasks expand
as they inevitably do. You won't need to re-learn another tool, but only
a plug-in for your existing text editor.


All of the above are true for Vim and Emacs, which is why I strongly
recommend learning one of them well and using it for all the editing you
do while programming.

<URL:https://wiki.python.org/moin/Vim>
<URL:http://blog.dispatched.ch/2009/05/24/vim-as-python-ide/>

<URL:https://wiki.python.org/moin/EmacsEditor>
<URL:http://www.enigmacurry.com/2008/05/09/emacs-as-a-powerful-python-ide/>

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#72147 — 答复: IDE for python

IPython for interactive testing.

Aptana or PyDev + eclipse as IDE

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Hello everyone,

I am new to python.

I am currently using python 3.3

With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.

Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development.
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