Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail From: Grant Edwards Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Newbie question about text encoding Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <201502241524.t1OFO09k022270@fido.openend.se> <201502241620.t1OGKf4n002146@fido.openend.se> <54ECB134.5090304@davea.name> <201502241945.t1OJjshO013092@fido.openend.se> <201502241957.t1OJvrJS015604@fido.openend.se> <00fbd940-52f6-44e2-bf08-b9f35c12e73f@googlegroups.com> <54efc2c8$0$12986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54f00787$0$12979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54f05aff$0$12980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67-130-15-94.dia.static.qwest.net X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1425059161 29301 67.130.15.94 (27 Feb 2015 17:46:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:46:01 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Linux) Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86579 On 2015-02-27, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Dave Angel wrote: > >> On 02/27/2015 12:58 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> Dave Angel wrote: >>> >>>> (Although I believe Seymour Cray was quoted as saying that virtual >>>> memory is a crock, because "you can't fake what you ain't got.") >>> >>> If I recall correctly, disk access is about 10000 times slower than RAM, >>> so virtual memory is *at least* that much slower than real memory. >>> >> >> It's so much more complicated than that, that I hardly know where to >> start. > > [snip technical details] > > As interesting as they were, none of those details will make swap faster, > hence my comment that virtual memory is *at least* 10000 times slower than > RAM. Nonsense. On all of my machines, virtual memory _is_ RAM almost all of the time. I don't do the type of things that force the usage of swap. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! ... I want FORTY-TWO at TRYNEL FLOATATION SYSTEMS gmail.com installed within SIX AND A HALF HOURS!!!