Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; '*not*': 0.07; 'lines,': 0.07; '[1,': 0.09; 'iterate': 0.09; 'propagate': 0.09; 'raises': 0.09; 'valueerror:': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '*other*': 0.16; '23,': 0.16; 'caveat': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'ignoring': 0.16; 'loop.': 0.16; 'looping': 0.16; 'loops': 0.16; 'pairs': 0.16; 'pairs,': 0.16; 'starred': 0.16; 'unpack': 0.16; 'unpacking': 0.16; 'valueerror': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'stack': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'convenient': 0.24; 'instance,': 0.24; 'file.': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'first,': 0.26; 'this:': 0.26; 'values': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'reaches': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; '"",': 0.31; 'catching': 0.31; 'exceptions': 0.31; 'raised': 0.31; 'terminate': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; '(i.e.': 0.33; '(most': 0.33; 'there,': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'definition': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'described': 0.36; 'returning': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'catch': 0.60; 'ian': 0.60; 'break': 0.61; 'mentioned': 0.61; 'numbers': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; '(that': 0.65; 'occur': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'unusual': 0.74; '"simply': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'numbers:': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=G0MAhx9Yn8WR3a6iKeilhh09gIB99HcyEY/2h361OrU=; b=ctVXOtn+XGp5FtEsM6X01O+NkSjvam9tAGWS2i0H/blXli+MohoKGx5m5E95QV+jSM x4wnxQSHpKxChMhM4taUCLb/4kPhxpBcq5ckILiZLpeCzzKowqkMw2VcJYHBlEd28Qkm wWrH/xFBBWD4yif1uvsa4y4/ZABErxwQ5C7Wy0LFb9RljgmmmY/fAvonVjQhHNn9RiAV FtNv/G3gndh63lYcEFeJWtb6tfqP48Sbo8EmlG/jv4s+pyTRWO9VGt+UFMYLesvzjikJ wMfx5aCViL+AMDGezSQbCd/wUeAREDPyDo2oP8cLqBmbMd/zmZRT1cd8SI/tPEiEmkbB owOg== X-Received: by 10.58.161.6 with SMTP id xo6mr23544603veb.50.1366752567590; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:29:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Oscar Benjamin Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:29:07 +0100 Subject: Re: Nested iteration? To: Ian Kelly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Python X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 53 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366752575 news.xs4all.nl 2258 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52104 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44217 On 23 April 2013 17:30, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> The definition of the for loop is sufficiently simple that this is >> safe, with the caveat already mentioned (that __iter__ is just >> returning self). And calling next() inside the loop will simply >> terminate the loop if there's nothing there, so I'd not have a problem >> with code like that - for instance, if I wanted to iterate over pairs >> of lines, I'd happily do this: >> >> for line1 in f: >> line2=next(f) >> print(line2) >> print(line1) >> >> That'll happily swap pairs, ignoring any stray line at the end of the >> file. Why bother catching StopIteration just to break? > > The next() there will *not* "simply terminate the loop" if it raises a > StopIteration; for loops do not catch StopIteration exceptions that > are raised from the body of the loop. The StopIteration will continue > to propagate until it is caught or it reaches the sys.excepthook. In > unusual circumstances, it is even possible that it could cause some > *other* loop higher in the stack to break (i.e. if the current code is > being run as a result of the next() method being called by the looping > construct). I don't find that the circumstances are unusual. Pretty much any time one of the functions in the call stack is a generator this problem will occur if StopIteration propagates. I just thought I'd add that Python 3 has a convenient way to avoid this problem with next() which is to use the starred unpacking syntax: >>> numbers = [1, 2, 3, 4] >>> first, *numbers = numbers >>> first 1 >>> for x in numbers: ... print(x) ... 2 3 4 >>> first, *numbers = [] Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ValueError: need more than 0 values to unpack Since we get a ValueError instead of a StopIteration we don't have the described problem. Oscar