Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'variable,': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; "hasn't": 0.15; 'thu,': 0.15; 'opposite': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'scope.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; "shouldn't": 0.18; 'language': 0.19; '2015': 0.20; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'sep': 0.22; 'code.': 0.23; 'fit': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'var': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; "i'm": 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'curious': 0.33; 'file': 0.34; 'this?': 0.34; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'sure': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'url:3': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'safe': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'dont': 0.64; 'elsewhere': 0.66; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'url:reference': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:13:12 +0100 References: <4602a32c-5109-47dd-95bb-b9723738f07f@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.147.66.69 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441318409 news.xs4all.nl 23855 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38661 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95974 On 03/09/2015 20:47, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM, wrote: >> Or does anyone really name a global var xxx and a function var xxx? >> I am sure no one at all will do it. I dont want read such a code. > > Intentionally, it's probably rare. But if I'm adding a new variable, I > shouldn't need to first make sure that it's safe to do so by scanning > over the entire file to make sure that the name hasn't already been > used elsewhere in the opposite scope. > I'm just curious as I've never used it myself, but how does nonlocal https://docs.python.org/3/reference/simple_stmts.html#the-nonlocal-statement fit into this? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence